The biggest middle-finger to him would be if really all “restive” subreddits agree on re-electing their respective mods.
The biggest middle-finger to him would be if really all “restive” subreddits agree on re-electing their respective mods.
This is the main reason why I won’t go scorched earth and delete my account there. If there are polls on this, I want to be part of it. All the people who cared enough about the blackout to leave and delete their accounts last week are dead to Steve, he can’t monetize them anymore.
Although that’s not to say the blackout has had no effect on me. I’m here now, after all, and will probably end up splitting my attention here even if Reddit rethinks things.
The way this is unfolding is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
[soapbox]Guys, remember: spez is just the sacrificial goat*. They’ll let him take the unpopular decisions, then “fire” him, then plenty users will go like “WE DID IT REDDIT! WE SAVED REDDIT! SPEZ IS GONE”. It was just like this with Ellen Pao.
The whole company is scum and not even firing spez should be considered enough.[/soapbox]
*I apologise to any caprine being who might be offended by the comparison.
All lies, they‘ve straight up been removing mods like they want to cleanse them from the website and forcibly reopen their subs, NO voting on it! It‘s “reopen of gtfo”, that‘s the message they are sending.
This moral appeal to democracy is transparent and laughable, they must think Redditors are completely brainless to swallow that turd, and maybe he is right seeing those who cheer for this.
How about letting redditors vote out CEOs?
How about letting redditors vote that CEOs shouldn’t get a golden parachute?
How about shareholders sacking a paedophile CEO for gross misconduct with no golden parachute?
One can only dream.
how is this process initiated? spez is using democracy as a buzzword. if these votes are user-initiated, it’s just going to become a method of hostile takeovers. if they’re admin-initiated, they’re obviously going to be used mostly in retaliation. if spez has a workable solution to both, he should say it, instead of throwing out buzzwords like reddit has done with free speech for its entire history
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“But we haven’t even implemented the voting feature yet!” -u/DELETED
Well, lemmy already taking Reddit Traffic, so why bother again… just let it rot!
In China people call it
LET IT ROT
I feel like having people vote on moderators would be an improvement but how can you complain about the lack of democracy when you are literally Reddit.
I really disagree, moderators need to make unpopular decisions sometimes to keep communities intact. Online polls are notoriously easy to game as well.
If the users want to kill their own community with bad decisions, that is their right. A mod shouldn’t get to stop it.
He’s saying the same talking points at every interview and handling this situation like Chris Licht did before he got fired at CNN, had some ideas for change that people weren’t necessarily against but shove it down their throats with out any finesse or flexibility or fairness and everyone is unhappy and it exposed the true motive. Licht \ CNN was being forced to the right by the owner and billionaire investors, and Reddit is just plain forcing out 3rd party apps (that helped build reddit in the first place, and have been open to paying a reasonable amount for api access) to try and boost revenue. My favorite take on all this is from Arstechnica:
But Reddit’s biggest asset is its community. Charging for its API may be a necessary evil to survive an uncertain future, but Reddit’s attitude against its own community isn’t. Reddit is burning bridges on its quest for cash without showing an ounce of sympathy.
Yeah, spez is treating striking mods like spoiled toddlers, but insisting on making money himself while making their unpaid work harder. It’s eroding their good will to volunteer, for what future? Paid mods?
for what future? Paid mods?
No way, they’d need to pay 3 millions a year or so to replace all moderator work in the platform.
They’re trying to optimise the company for the IPO, showing stuff like “you can sell this data to Google for LLM! It’s self-moderated! No third party apps eating your adbux!”. It’s just that it’s backfiring… badly.