• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    It’s hilarious that the entire point was to draw focus on how Biden fucked up the withdrawal from Afghanistan (while following Trump & literal Taliban combined plan), but all anybody is talking about now is how disrespectful Trump & company is. His purpose for doing this is entirely lost now.

    Edit: taliban not isis

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        If I recall Trump said “they couldn’t stop even if they tried”

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          Crowing about it because he will use it as an attack later. Just like the tax bomb set to raise income tax for regular Americans after Donald’s term.

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      Donald Trump is not a smart man. He didn’t become the threat that he is due to his own skilful manoeuvring. He became a threat because the institutions that are supposed to oppose people like him have failed.

      Now that, for the first time in his political career, he’s up against an opponent with basic competence he can’t do anything other than flail impotently.

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        I didn’t care for her, but Clinton I would say had more than basic competence, though she didn’t really have much charisma, is pretty unlikable, forced out Bernie Sanders, chose a completely forgettable running mate, was running as an establishment candidate in a “change” election, and has a blatant desire for power. It all worked against her, though she did still win the popular vote. Still fairly competent though.

        I would argue Harris is in a similar situation as Clinton, though she apparently had the sense to at least pick someone more likable than herself and her almost invisible tenure as VP actually may work to her advantage. Otherwise, she’s not incredibly charismatic on her own and could be in trouble at the debate with Trump, though his elderly, stroke-addled brain may help her out.

        But if it gets into the same sort of thing like in his debate with Biden, where Trump is just throwing out BS bombs left and right, and all Kamala does is just uselessly flail around trying to address his BS points one by one, I think she’ll be in trouble. She needs to cut through the BS and present herself as the adult in the room, and make Trump seem infantile and ridiculous.

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              He was ok, seems like a nice guy, but just not much of a presence, it seemed obvious that Clinton didn’t want anybody that was going to overshadow her, just kind of lukewarm, which seems completely opposite to what Harris did bringing Walz on board. I think alot of people are wishing Walz was the presidential candidate instead, but it is what it is and he seems like a decent enough guy that it’ll good just to have him in the Oval Office in any capacity.

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            I had the exact same reaction and had to look it up. Hard to argue with the completely forgettable tag.

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          All agreed. The Clinton’s are political animals, best of the best at the game, but Hilary doesn’t share her husband’s over-the-top charisma. She works best behind the scenes, not on camera kissing babies.

          And this hilarious meme hit far too close to home.

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            Literally been screaming this since her time as SoS… Hill-Dawg should have run in NY’s bluest blueberry of a US House district and then taken the reigns from Pelosi in 2022. She’s masterful at running the inner party show… she got that “do it or I’ll burn your house down” energy so few people have (liken to LBJ, Pelosi, Cave Johnson, etc).

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            Reminds me of this Simpsons bit. But yeah, a lot of well off people (even those that are well meaning) are just completely out of touch on how many people actually live.

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          I was expecting a major crisis when Harris took over since she did abysmally in the 2020 primary. She was one of the first “serious” candidate to drop out, not even making it to 2020. Shes essentially just cruising on “not an old white guy”

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            Not much of a platform for sure but she’s absolutely humiliating Trump which seems to be working to put down the facists, so hey I’ll take it.

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              A candidate would be unwise to talk too much policy this late in the game. You gotta get in end zone before you can go home and fuck the prom queen.

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          Clinton’s fatal flaw was picking about the worst campaign manager of all time, who did things like relying almost exclusively on software based calculations and stopped polling voters in early September.

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        Fucking thank you. I’m tired of people saying he’s not stupid… This man is a fucking moron. Low cunning is not the same thing as intelligence.

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      Even if it worked, that’s just more hypocritical nonsense.

      “Biden messed up, these 13 Americans are dead. Not quite as many people as I killed by messing up a pandemic response, or by blowing the cover of American spies, but if I get in office again I’m sure my decisions will kill a lot more people. What were we talking about again?”

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      literal Isis

      You mean the Taliban’s plan, the US negotiated the withdrawal with the Taliban.

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        It is crazy to expect the Afghanistan military to fight when the US president negotiated handover of Afghanistan with the Taliban

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          I mean the afghan military was only marginally less awful than the Taliban, sometimes significantly worse, and they weren’t exclusive evils to the afghan people. Turns out giving money and arms to the worst psychopaths you can find to fight the other group of psychopaths you gave money and arms to doesn’t have a good outcome.

          To quote an afghan before the withdrawal: We have three problems, Kabul, the Taliban, and the Americans. When the Americans leave, we will have two problems.

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            The us involvement in Afghanistan was truly one of the biggest blunders in a century and it didn’t have to be. It wasn’t just one president but a 20 year failure in state building, that had been run with profit in mind. The us used to be able to do this in Japan and Korea(only the South though). I believe it was the corruption and the contractors that set up such a terrible state.

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              Given the massacres and decades of terror under the dictatorship that were required to create modern South Korea, I wouldn’t hold it up as a success.

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    Man, ever since Biden dropped out, the fascists have been even more incompetent than usual. I’m gonna assume it’s from them panicking.

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      Here’s the thing, a weak Democrat candidate meant the GOP could ride the curtail of a natural red wave born from voter dissatisfaction into another Trump presidency. They didn’t have to try faced with Biden so they didn’t have as many opportunities to show their incompetence.

      Now democrats have rallied and the writing is on the wall that Trump isn’t good enough just by the virtue of being the republican choice. He actually has to try, which he hasn’t done since 2016, and he’s pretty bad at trying.

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    That is just Trump showing his usual respect for the military and especially the “losers” (according to him) - those who paid the ultimate price to protect the country.

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      Mike Johnson with actual power would be a living hell. Turkmenistan levels of living hell. If he had as much power as Trump he’d be at the very least equally as dangerous. If he actually gets his career ruined over this (doubt it) and fucks off forever i’ll sleep better at night.

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    I feel bad for the Marckesano family. It’s so hard to bury a loved one who served our country, with all the pressures and hardships involved. It’s an unfair and unexpected addition to a hard time like this.