I was excited to learn about two new terminal emulator app which seemed to have a lot of cool new features, warp and wave. Then I looked closer and found that both are a no go for me.

Warp is closed source and you need to create an account to use your terminal. Jebus Christus, no, thanks, but no.

Wave is an Electron app. While that’s better than not having a Linux version, I’ve seen how Electron apps behave. They are the ones which hog all memory and get killed by the OS first. So that’s a no from me too.

I guess I keep my Tilix for now.

  • Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show
    53·
    3 months ago

    I can’t see the benefit of fancy terminal emulators. I use plain old Konsole (mostly on Plasma) and as long as it has good history search and multiple tabs, I’m good.

  • gomp@lemmy.ml
    31·
    3 months ago

    Might I add the idea that your terminal emulator must support your shell is utterly ridiculous?

    https://docs.waveterm.dev/reference/faq#what-shells-does-wave-terminal-support

    https://docs.warp.dev/getting-started/using-warp-with-shells

    Also Wave might be FOSS but if you look at the footer in their website it says it’s backed by venture capital… how would you estimate the chances it gets closed, paywalled or otherwise enshittified?

    • tehbilly@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      16·
      3 months ago

      By default, sharing a sudo password between PTY sessions is not allowed by your operating system. This can be a frustration when using Waveterm because every command is treated as a separate PTY session. To get around this, Waveterm will cache your sudo password in local memory (not written to disk) and share it with a session when provided.

      Holy crap, no thanks. That’s legit awful.

  • bjornsno@lemm.ee
    141·
    3 months ago

    Have you tried kitty? It’s seriously nice if you can live with the occasional “oh no I sshed to a server that doesn’t have the correct terminfo files and now none of the normal terminal navigation features work”

    • non_burglar@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 months ago

      I like Kitty, but the terminfo stuff happens often enough for me that it’s a no-go.

      Normally, I would fiddle with workarounds, but the author of Kitty has no plans to make Kitty play ball.

    • flashgnash@lemm.ee
      2·
      3 months ago

      I use kitty as my term, I am a little jealous of some of the warp features though.

      Wave has some cool features too though feels very clunky and busy ui

    • Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      I ended up just making an alias for s=kitten ssh and then added my desktop to .ssh/config so now typing s desktop does the trick!

  • 1984@lemmy.today
    12·
    3 months ago

    I tried warp but it was actually laggy and slow. Also I don’t like the account idea, but I was willing to let it slide if they built a much better terminal than what we have.

    They didn’t.

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
      1·
      3 months ago

      i think id rather have the slightly worse option than to bother with accounts for every desktop app

    • sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      Hell yeah, now that it finally works with Wayland on nvidia with explicit sync being added to the 555 drivers it’s been great for me

    • markstos@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      Yes. But sometimes pasting doesn’t work. Then I switch my focus to another window and back to WezTerm and it works again.

      I’m thinking of switching back to Foot.

      • a Kendrick fan@lemmy.ml
        1·
        3 months ago

        i’ve never had this issue, my only gripe is that I set my system font to Jetbrains Mono using gnome tweaks which conflicts with Wezterm as it’s default font is also Jetbrains Mono

  • PushButton@lemmy.world
    7·
    3 months ago

    I am waiting for Ghostty…

    It’s made in Zig with a focus on performance while giving a good set of features.

    Look it up!

  • patatahooligan@lemmy.world
    7·
    3 months ago

    Is there any terminal that uses smooth scrolling, including for command output? Like, for example, you run ls and the files scroll into view rather than the terminal abruptly jumping to the end of the output? I find the jarring transition disorienting and would like to get rid of it.

  • kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de
    6·
    3 months ago

    I think Hyper was another Electron based terminal. And talking of terminal and Linux, there exists an electron based file manager for Linux as well. I wonder who exactly their target audience for that is though.

  • Bell@lemmy.world
    5·
    3 months ago

    I’d really like one that let me see options for the command I’m typing. Like if I type “dd” it shows me some of the options for the dd command like “if=” or “conv=”. Is there a fancy term like that?

    • gomp@lemmy.ml
      131·
      3 months ago

      That’s not something a terminal emulator should do - it’s a feature that belongs in your shell :)

      • Goun@lemmy.ml
        101·
        3 months ago

        But that isn’t the job of the terminal, but the shell, isn’t it? I don’t know how they’d do that, but it feels like they’d have to assume a lot of stuff. On top of that, if you use multiplexers like tmux or embeded terminals like in emacs, for example, you’d most probably lose some of the features.

        I don’t get how we need anything else than just a terminal that is fast, supports 256 colors (or true color, if you’re feeling fancy,) and changing the font.