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    There’s still one protest possible.

    LEAVE REDDIT!!! GET THE FUCK OFF OF IT! LET IT DIE. MAKE IT DIE!

    Same with twitter.

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        Twitter and Reddit went so much to shit and lowered the bar so much that Meta actually became almost not bad in my eyes, almost.

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            Gee are you implying that storing passwords in plaintext is a bad thing? /s

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            I’m still pissed off that I’ve never had a facebook. I never gave them any info about me. I gave them no reason to have a profile on me.

            Yet because OTHER people have facebook, they know my name, my address, my phone number. I don’t know if they can identify me in pictures that other people post, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

            That shouldn’t be allowed. I did not consent.

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              Correct. And the same is true for the mobile phones, carriers, and a slew of apps that all look at contacts. They know who you are and who your friends and family are.

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          There’s a guy in the world of pro wrestling named Jim Cornette that said a quote this reminds me of.

          Cornette is known for holding grudges, and being hateful. He keeps a shitlist of people he hates.

          Well in the 1980s he was working for a wrestling company, and hated one of his coworkers for a year. Then a new guy came in and was so much worse.

          Then one day he says to the first guy “You know, you used to be at the top of my shit list, but with all these new fuckheads coming in, you managed to move down a few spots simply by not doing anything!”

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          They’re doing a Bradbury, in a way, kind of like Tumblr and Steam. Everyone else is shooting themselves in the foot.

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          I think Meta is doing a decent job with Instagram. I mean except for collecting all possible data and psychological profiling of users to serve them targeted ads, it’s a decent enough platform. And the only one still allowing for engagement with your actual friends rather than exclusively professional content creators.

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            WTF are you on about? no one likes instagram shorts and the feed is a jumbled mess of bullshit and advertisements. I deleted mine a long time ago and don’t regret it for a second.

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              no one likes instagram shorts

              it’s “reels” i think tiktok recommends better videos, but IG has closed the gap in recent years.

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            I really don’t understand how people use Instagram. I’ve tried, but it’s about 45% ads, 10-15% posts by people I don’t follow, it’s not in chronological order (or any sense of order for that matter), and regardless of whether I was on there yesterday or 2 months ago, it’ll show me about 40 posts before saying “You’re all caught up from the past 3 days!” and then refuse to show me any more.

            I guess this is why I’m here on Lemmy and went crawling back to Tumblr, one of the last vestiges of the old internet. At this point, I’d rather watch a platform die than become marketable to advertisers and shareholders.

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              Yes the random feed filled with ads unrelated post suggestions and limited to three days is the main issue. i use an Instagram mod but they didn’t manage yet to replace the main feed with the friend only feed you can get by clicking on the Instagram button

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            I mean except for collecting all possible data and psychological profiling of users to serve them targeted ads, it’s a decent enough platform.

            It’s not. Instagram is popular the way it is because “It’s going to be a lot harder to pull off massive protests” there.

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                …OK, well I guess we wait until the wrong person is in charge of that division. Also I’m old because that feels like yesterday…fuck.

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        Meta is a little hard because they acquired a lot of existing social networks in their prime and have kept things subtle. Think about how long it took EA to finally strip Maxis of everything but The Sims. The only way you would know something is owned by Meta is from the splash screen.

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        The problem is that FB is the “core forum” for tons of niche hobbies. Irts the only reason I still have a account. They successfully killed off the old php forums.

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          If you live in rural America sone information is only posted to Facebook, from private businesses to small county or town governments

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            Additionally FB Marketplace killed Craigslist, at least in my area (also US). Nextdoor somewhat is a counter but that has its own problems.

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        Yep, agreed. The biggest problem there is that Meta is generally not making life worse for its users than they’re used to. Facebook and Instagram are giving you almost the same shitty experience you got a decade ago.

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          Affordable purely by the money you pay upfront. They earn more by the ridiculous amount of tracking they do, and they’re also forcing you to stay within their services.

          As with so many other things, you’re paying with more than just money.

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            they’re also pushing the technology and pressuring other manufacturers to adopt and be competitive

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      I left Reddit 6 months ago when I was permabanned for asking a question about what is forbidden. They can kiss my ass. And I hope they go broke.

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        Aw man. I left Reddit on my own terms as soon as the writing was on the wall re: 3rd party apps.

        To have access ripped away without notice must have bred some deep hatred for the platform.

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          I left Twitter for much the same reasons. All the replies are basically unusable now, because bots just pay to get put at the top of the sorting algorithm, and it’s now full of bait and spam, since the website formerly known as Twitter now pays for engagement, since that apparently worked out well for Quora (!).

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      Like what the hell are they even protesting about now? What is left to protest about? And why? Just go.

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      I genuinely tried to leave but lots of communities didn’t leave Reddit and therefore had to stick to Reddit. I did with RRSS-feed and avoided their app.

      Recently figured out we can Sideload Apollo app with almost all functions available. So did that.

      Thankfully never used twitter! I read valuation dropped from 44B to 9,4B recently.

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            It’s super easy, the main problem is no one will move. I still moderate a couple on reddit, but it was hard enough getting people even there, certainly no one will come here.

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      If you’re still posting on Reddit or Twitter, and it’s not for a niche community, please don’t come here.

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      The hold outs for these sites are so fucking dumb. They act like social media is somehow an important part of their existence when just 10, 20 years ago it was an emerging technology. These early iterations of social media are toxic as fuck. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. They don’t deserve your patronage and are taking your goodwill and turning it into social decay.

      10-20 years and you people can’t give it up for something better. There is no argument. You don’t owe them loyalty. They aren’t innovating. They have contributed to the rise of authoritarianism.

      Yeesh.

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      No, because then they’ll all flood here. Then I’ll have to consult with 9,006 different rules between each sub, while subsequently making sure I’m bending to each power-mods weird and unwritten agenda.

      No I’m good with reddit. I encourage reddit. And I encourage all the weirdos to use reddit!

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        Nope.

        If you encourage it, it will continue to fester and rot, and the entire internet will lower their expectations.

        We need to destroy these companies. We need to smash them to pieces, and hey guess what - it’s going to hurt a bit! We need to be prepared to stand up against evil, corrupt, racist, bigoted robber barons. We need to make some sacrifices to fix the internet.

        Burn the fuckers to the ground, and let spez rot in a hole.

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          I think you have misconstrued what I’m saying here. I hope reddit exists to collect the weirdos, and be a breeding ground for the gross shit it is, and keep it away from here. We don’t need to inherit the 2024 users of reddit, no one wants them. Let them echo in their bot chambers until they literally spin into the ground. Keep Lemmy normal.

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            I get what you’re saying, but it never works like that.

            You said it yourself: “I hope reddit exists to…be a breeding ground…” And it will. The worst of humanity will collect and fester and grow in numbers. And what’s going to happen then? Some will spill over to here, and other ‘safe’ communities.

            There’s no way we can thrive and simultaneously isolate ourselves from assholery; and by encouraging it to thrive elsewhere, we’re only expanding its power and reach; and at the same time, enriching and empowering asshole billionaires like spez, Zuck, Musk, etc.

            No, we need to fight them. We need to wade hip-deep in the shit to shovel it down the drain, rather than hoping it’ll just go away on its own.

            Look at it another way: If you have a garden, what happens if you designate one corner as “the weed corner?” It grows, spreads, and takes over the rest of the garden.

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              We can fight them, but ultimately these companies have the control. They can enrich and empower, and there’s probably not a lot we can ultimately do about it. When the chips fall, I’d rather they just stay on a sub and endlessly echo chamber themselves into oblivion. Some will come here, but it seems like most will stay there until something ultra stupid forces them here. And I mean at this point, even ultra stupid hasn’t, so yeah. If they have to collect somewhere, I’d personally rather it be there than here. I think that’s the main point I’m making.

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      Same. This place is great, even with the tankies from lemmy.ml and the fascists from hexbear, at least we somehow still get along.

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        Not all of us are tankies fwiw, I just wanted to be on the largest and most well-supported instance with generally the least amount of downtime.

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            That one isn’t the largest, no. The largest is .ml and it’s run by the two Lemmy maintainers.

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              I am confused, every statistic of .world seems bigger. What am I missing?

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                Looks like I was mistaken, then. Looks like .ml isn’t the largest, it’s just the one run by the two Lemmy maintainers, which for me (combined with .one keeping going down when I was actively using it) made it my home instance.

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        What’s the deal with having a .world user complain about ml and hexbear in every single thread lately?

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          It’s crazy. Almost like we all have the freedom to say whatever the fuck we want, including complaining, because we fucking can.

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          I’m not from .world and also complain about it sometimes. In my opinion, it’s a legitimate reason that makes Lemmy less attractive, as a consequence, you have to set up blockers to keep your sanity which is a hassle for the average user.

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        Having those arround adds some flavour to my feed. I’m like “ooh so that’s what they are up to” I wish that smaller communities thrive but well.

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          They are heavily biased towards China and Russia, two countries with fascist governments. That kinda speaks for itself, even if they claim to be communists or socialists.

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            Don’t confuse authoritarian regimes with fascism. China is an authoritarian state running a diluted version of communism, but it’s not fascist. Russia under Putin is leaning more towards fascism these days for sure, but they’re not fascist outright yet.

            Maybe what the hexbear folks gravitate around the most is the idea of authoritarianism. The flavour doesn’t matter as much.

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              a diluted version of communism,

              Is there still something communist in their economy? Are the people working 9 am to 9 pm 6 days a week, owning their means of production?

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            They share the same positions on global politics as pretty much every Marxist-Leninist political party on the planet. You may not like those positions, but trying to characterise them as actually far-right extremist is absurd horseshoe theory nonsense.

            Liberals & social democrats on lemmy.world acting like NATO, the US Democratic Party, and capitalism are the real bulwarks against fascism is amusing.

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              Once you get into Leninist territory the difference between the far left and the far right blurs into meaninglessness.

              Stalin made a deal to carve up Poland with Hitler

              Steve Bannon cites Lenin as an inspirational figure.

              Communist regimes have historical brutally repressed religious, sexual, and racial minorities.

              I could continue but you get the point. People obsessed with control and domination always end up acting the same

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        Lemmy was better before the Reddit exodus last year, when people started insulting others by calling them tankies and fascists. Before that, it was much more peaceful.

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          It was still full of tankies though, lemmygrad was the second biggest instance and you’d see it everywhere

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          They were tankies and fascists before anyone ever came here and found out that they were.

          Calling them such didn’t create them.

          Basically… A tankie isn’t not a tankie just because theres no one there to accuse them of being one.

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      I honestly believe that Lemmy is cool, but it either needs more content or I need to perform a magic trick to make my feed “better”. At least it’s not that addicting, and the “small community, small town” vibes gives charm to it.

      I’ve been here since August 2024 or so.

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        I agree, so I’ve been posting photos and things. What we don’t need is a bunch of autoposting bots.

        If you want to find the busy threads though, sort of Active and All. And just see what is going on across the lemmyverse

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          If you want to find the busy threads though, sort of Active and All. And just see what is going on across the lemmyverse

          Yeah, this helps, but it’s not always topics that really interest me. We kind of need more diversity of content around here.

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            I prefer scaled to active sort for that reason.

            I agree though, more content and more content diversity would be great.

            The small percentage that contribute content regularity in social media platforms instead of just consuming are great.

            I’m too boring to have much content that would be good for anything other than microblogging myself though.

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        On Reddit, everyone is trying to get a million votes and just brutally murder with words everyone. It either gets really hostile, or just lots of bots posting bot shit.

        On Lemmy: Even the posters I disagree with, I have a lot of fun with them. We say stupid shit all the time and accept the upvotes/downvotes with our shitposts.

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          That’s been my experience as well. I’m using a Lemmy client that allows me to tag users, and I’ve been tagging people who have posted comments that annoyed me. A few are obvious trolls, but the rest have posted many comments that I liked or agree with since I’ve tagged them. It’s been refreshing to see, actually

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        Lemmy is nice, but the content on it is quite niche. If you want something less tech-oriented, you’re generally out of luck, for example.

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        I need to perform a magic trick to make my feed “better”. At least it’s not that addicting

        Lemmy’s feed is intentionally (or I think it is intentional at least) worse in this aspect than Reddit’s feed, in order to not be as addictive. Take that how you will.

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      This place feels like old reddit. When we could have actual discussions and not just be downvoted by bots. It’s so much better here

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        And you can still tailor it to yourself. Instances have different mindsets to different topics and things they allow or don’t and there’s tons of people to agree with or disagree with but everyone is cordial.

        I just don’t have a reason to go back

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      It’s so much better. Personally I don’t hope it grows much either. Satisfies my content itch, have still had some good quality convos here, seen some great comments threads. Absolutely none of the bullshit that Reddit purposely encourages. Plus most of the zeebs and the chronically offended seemed to have stayed with reddit, and I’m super OK with that.

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        I’d argue Lemmy is turning into its own echo chamber. I’ve seen some mods power tripping just like good old Reddit. I erroneously thought people would learn from past mistakes, but sadly this is not what happened.

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          Then just go to a different Instance. I agree the powermods are a headache, but at least with Lemmy they have way less power. You can start a new sub with a matching name on a different Instance, and draw people away from the power mods. People get pretty sick of the power mods, pretty fast.

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          I’ve seen some mods power tripping just like good old Reddit.

          The difference is that when that happens on Reddit, you can’t go anywhere else. On Lemmy, you can go to any other instance and do it better if you feel the mods elsewhere are bad.

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    It’s sad how many docile idiots remained on Reddit and Twitter after last year.

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      People still use AOL internet. I expect Reddit and twitter to die sometime in the 2050s.

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        Digg still exists. Death of websites is rarely a complete shutter, but usually more of a steady decline into obscurity

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        I missed the part where Aol. was promoting toxicity and hate while attempting a short-term grift on its users like Reddit and X have.

        That fact that Aol. is still alive is amazing by itself. It’s just another sleazy, beleaguered company that used to be meaningful. You leave because other companies have better products, not because they offend your sense of morality.

        (Or maybe they do.)

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          I think you underestimate how ignorant people can be. The reason Aol still exists is because they are grifters too. My Aol example was to show that people are docile idiots and won’t change their habits. Aol is grifting just as much as reddit does. They’re just grifting different groups in different ways.

          That’s why i think reddit and twitter will continue on for a long time. Maybe not as powerhouses but they won’t implode or go away any time soon.

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            My mom was still paying for dial-up AOL in 2016. She had been paying them $20 a month for over a decade while having high-speed internet that she was also paying for.

            When I asked her why she didn’t cancel it, she said she would lose her email.

            So I canceled it because AOL provides free email because they make money off of the ads.

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        Not just AOL Internet, but also the email service. Same for Hotmail. I used to work at iHeart, and the number of those email services (from prize winners) was not insignificant.

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          Hotmail was owned by Microsoft when I signed up in the late 90s. It’s no surprise it’s still around. It hasn’t been my primary email for a long time, but I still use it as my MS account. So really it’s just my Minecraft account.

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            I have a few accounts floating around for different services Microsoft has bought out or since integrated logins for. I genuinely don’t know how many Microsoft accounts I have, and it’s always a pain trying to guess which one a given service is on

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      There are a lot of subreddits for which there is no real replacement. Sometimes the strength in a community is the people. Doesn’t matter if reddit sucks if the people are there.

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      I believe you missed the point. There’s people there because they know that their content won’t be found elsewhere.

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      I don’t know, I feel during that exodus we got the best of the best. I miss some of the niche communities, But there’s so many fewer assholes over here.

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    It’s amazing to me that so many people are willing to work as unpaid moderators so that Reddit’s investors can make more money.

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      There was this one post for a call for mods about “doing a social good for the community”.

      Like bro, this is a video game subreddit. And you’re doing it for free, to help another dude get really rich.

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      Ideally, it would be because they care for the community they moderate, which I believe is the reason most mods do it.

      Then you have creatures like awkwardtheturtle, who knows what motivates them.

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        I would assume Awkward is motivated by narcissism and/or because they’re a power-hungry freakazoid, but who knows? 🤷

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          I learned if you Google “fertility doctors who used own sperm”, there isn’t one or two incidents. It’s A LOT.

          I don’t understand why anybody would do such a disgusting thing. but it helps me understand narcissism and power hungry behavior.

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      It’s amazing to me that so many people are willing to work as unpaid moderators so that Reddit’s investors can make more money.

      Well it used to be (when Reddit was FLOSS and Reddit didn’t take communities off the founders who created them, at most they’d close the community) that people saw it as choosing Reddit to host the community instead of creating it somewhere else. However, Reddit has since changed the rules drastically, and essentially taken the communities people created there.

      Best response for mods is to move your community somewhere else, and put in an automod rule redirecting people to the new community on Lemmy or whatever. Reddit will probably eventually try to take over and keep competing with your community under the original URL.

      I was reading this post recently: https://howtomarketagame.com/2021/11/01/dont-build-your-castle-in-other-peoples-kingdoms/ - I guess it applies to communities equally as much as it applies to anything else.

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      That’s when I knew we lost. When power hungry moderators felt threatened and, instead of standing in solidarity with its users, caved to corporate demands.

      “But we’ll be able to still protest. Every Tuesday.”

      Hell are those protests still going on? I highly doubt it.

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        Moment that “protest” started I knew it would last like a month tops.

        Most people don’t even care about third party apps.

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      People tried that.

      reddit corporate will remove those mods and ask which other mods want to be super duper awesome and be able to say they moderate another N thousand users per day for zero pay. And people leap at that.

      Until the users leave, nothing will happen. In a fucked way, reddit corporate are doing everyone a favor by removing the spineless “We are going to go silent for 24 hours with no real demands or bargaining power” idiocy.

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        At least you’re not the sucker doing it for free for the shareholders anymore.

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          I mean… everyone contributing all those super useful posts that everyone thinks are the only authoritative sources of information on the internet are doing exactly that.

          Every time you provide some tech support or a bit of advice? You are providing reddit shareholders’ money.

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      Many subs did that, so reddit substituted the mods for others that do as they are told.

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        The dndmemes protests were a pretty incredible thing while they lasted. The mods changed the subreddit to “nsfw” because that disabled most of the monetization. Then Reddit admins told them the subreddit obviously wasn’t really nsfw and to change it to accurately reflect the subreddit content.

        …so the mods changed the subreddit rules to allow actual nsfw content and people went nuts. In multiple senses of the term.

        Of course “accurately reflecting the subreddit” wasn’t what Reddit really cared about. They wanted to preserve the advertising stream for a popular subreddit, and this did the opposite of that. Reddit admins soon after basically said “remove nsfw content, restore the subreddit to what it used to be, do what we say or we’ll replace you with a mod team of our own choosing”.

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          Thanks for sharing this I guess I left before all of this happened and I haven’t heard any of it.

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      The problem is that this opens the door to far right bootlickers who a salivating at the idea of turning reddit into an even farther right shithole.

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      Reddit would close the sub for being unmoderated until someone asks to be the new mod

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          Well, the power hungry mod that lost their power wouldn’t be very happy with it and larger communities wouldn’t stay closed very long

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      Reddit mods are such cucks for power that they cave when it’s threatened to be removed

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    A friend and I were recently discussing how spineless modern boycotts are.

    We set a goddamn deadline for when the Reddit boycott ended. No wonder Spez just waited. Most people then just continued using the website. What a disgrace.

    Imagine if after one week of the genocide in Gaza, the BDS efforts just stopped. A boycott must be indefinite. It should go on until demands are met.

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    so many leaders are forgetting what the point of protests is. yes, protests are annoying if you’re a leader. but they’re better than the alternative. that’s the whole point.

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      They’re better than the OLD alternative, which was total boycotting at best, and torches and pitchforks at worst. The NEW alternative is complaining about it for a week or two, then continuing on without making any changes at all. They don’t mind the new alternative.

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          I sure hope so, but I don’t see much changing. I guess we’ll see by looking at where Reddit is at business-wise by next year. People were saying it was doomed last summer after the 3rd party app fiasco, and their daily traffic has only gone up since then. I’ve long since lost all faith in the masses making the best choices for themselves.

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        The quality on Reddit has really gone down with content creators disillusioned or gone, fake content everywhere (I’ve seen almost an entire scrollable thread copied comment-for-comment), and so many users wiping their comments.

        The owners are acting like everything is fine, but I think there’s a good chance it keeps hollowing out until the appeal isn’t there even for casual users. They can’t really turn back at this point, they burned the bridge.

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        i’m not yet sold on this “old vs new” thing. while i do agree that it would be better if people were more engaged/active about boycotting things and pulling out the pitchforks, my understanding is that hasn’t been the historical precedent in situations like this. the pitchfork stuff certainly did happen quite a lot in the past, but my understanding is that it was for more extreme problems than a social media company shutting down third party apps (which many people didn’t even know about). but then again, it might be hard to compare this to the company transgressions of the past.

        my understanding is that frustration is building, and if things continue in this direction, they will reach a tipping point where people do actually stop using the website all together and switch to alternatives. and, this ban on protests will give the reddit executives much less information on how close things are to that tipping point. (not to mention that the ban itself will probably accelerate things.)

        but i could be mistaken about this, and i’m open to changing my mind on it.

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        You can’t even make an allusion to torches and pitchforks on Reddit. Legit, they’ll ban ya.

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          I have, never, in my life, posted any serious encouragement of violence on reddit.

          I’ve still been banned for it like 50 times because I pissed off a mod

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        But that complacency isn’t happening to everyone. A lot are just festering, slowly digesting more incredulous and radical propaganda/influencers. Every ones base reality of the events that are happening over the country is getting completely skewed by the new types of outlets like tiktok that they flock to because of the lack of accountability by our elected officials and journalists/news organizations.

        During just this last hurricane Helene I’ve heard more anger and outrage about the government than anything to actually do about what’s been hit or what the people and rescue workers are actually doing. This is how we get mass shooters and assassinations becoming more prolific, people aren’t just complaining and going about their day. They’re nodding and grinding their teeth while smiling.

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        The old alternative is better IMO, makes change happen one way or another. Specifically the unsanctioned, and non-peaceful protests. Boycotts don’t work in the days of ad-revenue, since ad-revenue funded companies have immunity from user dissatisfaction in that regard (can replace a substantial amount of users with bots that look at ads and they still get ad-revenue).

        What we need are old-fashioned style pitchforks and fire protests against them, but in the digital age, using cyberwarfare, like this.

        (reposted because SJW deleted my others)

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      People haven’t been using the alternative, and that’s the problem. Reddit and tech giants have grown complicit. They do not believe people would do it to them, or they think they could survive thousands of people trying to do it to them, if one can then many can.

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      Protests: a pressure valve to release steam. You gotta let them get out there and march around for a little bit. Let them walk it off. Then proceed to implement the next new tyranny a little bit at a time.

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      I have to imagine that when some c-level suit saw that term in his moth-eaten copy of “Social Media for Dummies,” I don’t think it was intended to be taken quite so flagrantly visibly literally…

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      So that’s what happened?! I rarely come here, but last weekend was so bad that I started updating my subscribed communities here.

      I thought I interacted with too many downvoted posts, and screwed up what reddit thought were my main interests. Guess I was expecting too much from reddit…

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    (Copied from the thread on /c/Quark’s)

    I quit as the top mod of /r/StarTrek in 2021 in protest against Reddit’s platforming of vaccine disinformation subreddits. Then in 2023 during the API protest, myself and several of the remaining mods (including mods from /r/Risa and /r/DaystromInstitute) started StarTrek.website.

    The consensus I’ve seen on Lemmy has been largely “we don’t need to spread the word about our open platforms because Reddit will do something stupid again and there will be another protest and Lemmy will be promoted there”. So I hope we can take this as a lesson that we can’t rely on platforms being shitty in order to switch society over to open standards. We need to do our best to make Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed good as well as known.

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      What you guys did to the alternate Star Trek subs (ie: the ones that allowed criticism of NuTrek) is inexcusable and will never be forgiven.

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      started StarTrek.website.

      I don’t use that because you are (or someone is) modding it wrong. You don’t allow people to talk about which parts of Star Trek they don’t like and others might want to avoid. Fuck that. All parts of Star Trek are not equally good.

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      Fuck that Subreddit. I called someone an idiot there and they banned me. I don’t know if this changed but at the time ALL the moderators were privated. I found out one moderators and called them them all cowards and losers. It was THAT exchange that got be banned from reddit entirely.

      I came here and never looked back.

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    It just occurred to me that convincing someone of leaving a social media site is a lot like convincing someone to leave a big city.

    They have friends there and have grown accustomed to the vibrant and diverse activities, but realistically nothing they do or have there can’t be replicated in a smaller town, a smaller media site.

    They’re liable to put up with a lot of shit to stay with their community, but eventually people get pushed out and find greener pastures and a quiet space for themselves elsewhere. At least, that’s what I attribute to what I perceive to be a higher average age on the fediverse.

    I’m too old to find the constant stimulation and activity attractive anymore, and I much prefer the freedom to move around and be choosy about my media choices.

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    …we cannot allow actions that deliberately cause harm

    Seems like that’s about the only actions Reddit execs have taken over the last several years. Glad I left when I did.

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      Harm? That is what would happen to their company if they explained what they meant by “harm”

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        Because certainly they don’t think brigades harm communities if they won’t trust mods to set subreddits as private