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    The difference is stark and utterly bonkers. Look at every single headline coming out of CNN, CBS, NYT, NBC, ABC, FOX – literally all of them… the fact they’re all reporting on Harris and trump as though it’s a normal candidate dichotomy and not the insane disparity between a politician and a raving lunatic who should be sectioned by his loved ones for his own protection, is simply madness.

    This should not be a contest. Nobody should be taking seriously a man who is a demonstrable racist, fascist, unhinged lunatic who rants about toilets and windmills, who has been found liable for rape, who can barely string sentences together, who has felony convictions, and who has demonstrably committed treason twice – and he’s treated the same by the media as a career prosecutor with none of that and who has actually sane (if centrist) policies….

    Do you see how crazy that is?

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        It’s not a trap, Jesus.

        FPTP voting means 3rd parties can only be spoilers for the party they’re most aligned with. That’s a mathematical fact, whether we like it or not.

        I hate that as much as you do, but edgy protest voting only gives the fascists more control.

        If you really care about that, stop propping up fascists, and instead put that effort into an actual grassroots effort to make the US electoral system more fair:

        Support FairVote Action.

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                It’s called Duverger’s law if you’re actually interested in expanding your understanding on the topic and not acting in bad faith.

                This isn’t something to be debated, it’s really just how the math of FPTP works out. CGP Gray has a really good video on the topic as well- that’s what the previous commenter linked to. I’d recommend giving it a watch.

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                    I’m not going to waste my time by spelling out full academic mathematical proofs for a concept that is fucking obvious if you look at the info provided.

                    You obviously have no interest/capability of holding a good faith conversation

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          So you telling me one of the two most unpopular candidates is gonna win on their merits? Cause sounds like nepotism with extra steps.

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            1: Who are you saying is one of the most unpopular candidates? You seem pretty misinformed.

            2: Do you know what nepotism means? Which candidate inherited their position because of family ties?

            Your comment makes no logical sense.

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              Kamala Harris is the candidate because? Oh she was grandfathered in. And who do you think is popular? Cause irl i hear basically the lemmycrat takes that they will hold their nose to vote Harris, meanwhile again IRL everyone says same about Trump. I find no organic support for either candidate only hate on the “other option.”

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                No. She’s the vice president, and it’s very common for a vice president to become the candidate in the next election.

                Because I doubt you’ll care enough to click that link, here’s a partial list:

                John Adams (under George Washington)
                Thomas Jefferson (under John Adams)
                Martin van Buren (under Andrew Jackson)
                John Breckenridge (under James Buchanan)
                Henry Wallace (under Franklin Roosevelt)
                Richard Nixon (under Dwight Eisenhower)
                Walter Mondale (under Jimmy Carter)
                George H W Bush (under Ronald Reagan)
                Al Gore (under Bill Clinton)

                And I’ve left out many, many more who didn’t wind up with the nomination, partly because I’m on mobile and cross-referencing between Lemmy and web sites is a lot of work.

                This is nothing remotely like nepotism. Pretty much every VP does this. It’s part of the point, ffs.

                Any more arguments I can immediately debunk with facts?

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                  So you ignored the substance of my statement to get a gotcha moment? You need self reflection because you still havent found any actual reason to like Harris. Like where is the student debt relief? Can we not fund genocide? Money printer go brrrrr, but what would Harris Change oh not a thing comes to mind, like why do you support your preferred candidate, can I get an elevator pitch please?

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                    No, I didn’t ignore your comment at all. I countered it with the fact that a VP becoming the next presidential candidate is not only not remotely like nepotism, but is the standard for US politics, going back to the 18th century.

                    Your anger at me is misplaced. I do understand how the system works, and I don’t like it either. But I prefer to direct my outrage where it will actually make a difference, and I’ve pointed out where you can, too: we need to change the system so 3rd parties actually matter. In the meantime, I’ll oppose anyone who will usher in a fascist government where women and minorities will have their rights stripped away, and where Christian nationalism will be forced into our orifices.

                    How is that hard to understand?