• themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Obviously prohibition doesn’t work, but banning disposables specifically should be mandated everywhere. It is insane that a product that contains rechargeable lithium batteries is not rechargeable, or if it is it must be thrown away after less than a month.

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      2 months ago

      I think in this case prohibition should work fine…

      The alternative is just… Get a non-disposable one and learn a bit of maintenance. Jesus.

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        2 months ago

        Disposable vapes are easier to hide from parents since you can just throw them away, and also you don’t have to worry too much if your teacher confiscates them because they’re disposable.

        With a non-disposable vape, suddenly things become a lot harder for vaping teenagers.

        I’m not suggesting we let teenagers vape, I’m just saying there’s a reason teenagers like the disposable ones.

        • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          I’d consider this a plus. They’re not going to keep manufacturing these just so teenagers can buy them on a grey/black market. Teenagers will still be able to get their hands on vapes, but less consistently.

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        2 months ago

        I use a disposable vape now and I was adamant about not using one because of the wastefulness, until they banned flavored vape liquid in my state.

        It started to get really hard to buy coils for my vape, because it became unprofitable for these companies to operate here, and then even harder to find the liquid I enjoy.

        Non-disposable ones tend to be bulky too. Not to mention the maintenance is a huge pain in the ass. The non-disposable vapes tend to leak. Doesn’t matter which one you use. If you don’t prime the coil correctly they burn out in a few puffs, and you just wasted 5+ bucks on the coil you’ve been searching for. Coils only tend to last a few days to a week as well. So you’re always on this search to find coils. Also reusable ones only last for a few months to maybe a year anyway (if you’re lucky), then you have to spend 100+ on a new one.

        Sure you could get the little pod ones but now you’re being wasteful because you can’t reuse those either, and break twice as fast.

        Now I can buy 2 disposables that last a month, don’t leak, don’t take a lot of real estate in my pocket, are significantly cheaper, is easier to find, and the flavor is always consistent.

        I would’ve been fine with my reusable one until they banned the products that allowed me to use it.

        So yeah prohibition doesn’t work. You ban this people will just go back to smoking. Which is just as wasteful and way more toxic.

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          2 months ago

          I’m so cute infused by this. I have a reusable weed pen that has zero of these issues. The product just comes in a sealed container and you screw it into the base.

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            2 months ago

            Yes, because the “product that comes in a sealed container” is actually the entire vape including the coil, the base you screw it into is nothing more than the battery and charging electronics

            That’s still preferable over throwing away the battery as well, but it’s still a disposable vape

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              2 months ago

              It’s still plenty wasteful, but the most environmentally impactful part is throwing away the battery. If the battery isn’t disposable you’ve gotten rid of a large chunk of the problem.

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          2 months ago

          I used to have these issues and I’m sorry to say you are, in fact, using it wrong.

          If you find your coils burning out regularly when the tank is not empty, it’s most likely because you haven’t properly set the power on your vape. My coils have the appropriate power printed on them, and they only ever burn out when I forget to fill the tank. My current coil has been in operation for 7 months, I have 25785 puffs on it (the vape counts them). Before this vape, I didn’t care about setting the power and my coils would constantly burn out and I had the same frustration as you.

          My current vape also does not leak, despite the fact that I manually replaced the seals when I broke the glass tank (so it’s not just that the factory made it well).

          As for the liquide, yeah. Personally I buy base and flavor in the mail and mix them myself, but that’s probably also illegal for you.

          Be careful with disposables. Their nicotine levels are way higher than advertised, because they want to build the addiction to their product.

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      2 months ago

      Well it’ll work in this case because they’re not banging people from doing something they’re banning companies from doing something.

      If a product is not available for sale then it’s difficult for people to purchase it

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        2 months ago

        Not really, in places with decriminalized but not legal weed there’s still a lot of weed in all forms being distributed.

        What will make this work is that they didn’t ban flavors or non disposable vape devices.

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        2 months ago

        Oh free lithium batteries. I’ve got a decent sized stash of cells salvaged from disposables. Some of their cases I want to use as project boxes for esp devices.

        Will be sad once the supply dries up for us electronics folks.