I’m not sure what this comic is trying to say but in my recent experience a single misbehaving website can still consume all available swap at which point Linux will sometimes completely lock up for many minutes before the out-of-memory killer decides what to kill - and then sometimes it still kills the desktop environment instead of the browser.
(I do know how to use oom_adj; I’m talking about the default configuration on popular desktop distros.)
Yeah, OOM not being aggressive enough (i.e. not triggering at all) is an age old issue. There’s earlyoom or nohang for this, further ressources in the description.
https://www.baeldung.com/linux/memory-overcommitment-oom-killer looks like an informative recent article on the subject, and reminds me that my knowledge is a bit outdated. (TIL about the choom(1) command which was added to util-linux in 2018 as an alternative to manipulating things in /proc directly…)
Linux is slow at killing apps when you run out of memory because it was designed to also run on low spec hardware even if very slowly (making the ui totally unrensposnive) due to swapping.
This comic is about the kill command, how Linux kernel is handling force stopping apps vs (old?) Windows when if App frozed it was hard to close it. Now with modern apps and hardware you very rarely see that as most apps are designed to have asynchronous logic that is correctly handled, but it’s still more or less relevant.
I’m not sure what this comic is trying to say but in my recent experience a single misbehaving website can still consume all available swap at which point Linux will sometimes completely lock up for many minutes before the out-of-memory killer decides what to kill - and then sometimes it still kills the desktop environment instead of the browser.
(I do know how to use
oom_adj; I’m talking about the default configuration on popular desktop distros.)Yeah, OOM not being aggressive enough (i.e. not triggering at all) is an age old issue. There’s earlyoom or nohang for this, further ressources in the description.
Real, happened too many times to me. What’s that about configuring the OOM, can you give it priorities?
The canonical documentation is https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/proc.rst (ctrl-f
oom) but if you search a bit you’ll find various guides that might be easier to digest.https://www.baeldung.com/linux/memory-overcommitment-oom-killer looks like an informative recent article on the subject, and reminds me that my knowledge is a bit outdated. (TIL about the choom(1) command which was added to util-linux in 2018 as an alternative to manipulating things in
/procdirectly…)https://dev.to/rrampage/surviving-the-linux-oom-killer-2ki9 from 2018 might also be worth reading.
How to make your adjustments persist for a given desktop application is left as an exercise to the reader :)
Thanks! Will have to come back to this
Linux is slow at killing apps when you run out of memory because it was designed to also run on low spec hardware even if very slowly (making the ui totally unrensposnive) due to swapping.
This comic is about the
killcommand, how Linux kernel is handling force stopping apps vs (old?) Windows when if App frozed it was hard to close it. Now with modern apps and hardware you very rarely see that as most apps are designed to have asynchronous logic that is correctly handled, but it’s still more or less relevant.