• barsquid@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Orion is so powerful and dangerous it can write a memetic virus that mindwipes any reader who sees it. It is beyond science. If you use it within three meters of a lit candle it will summon the devil.

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    3 months ago

    I heard openai execs are so scared of how powerful the next model will be that they’re literally shitting themselves every day thinking about it. they don’t even clean it up anymore, the openai office is one of the worst smelling places on earth

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      3 months ago

      they’re well at the top of the S-curve and now there’s only desperate over-engineering and bolting on special cases left

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        3 months ago

        I still cannot believe that they couldn’t special-case count 'R' in "strawberry" for their Strawberry model like what the fuck

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Could be. I was in the beta and honestly, I think the “guard-rails” they’ve had to put in truly do impact performance. Even 3.5 was better than much of what I see out of 4o

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          3 months ago

          4o codes like 50 first dates memory style. And takes things so literally sometimes it’s silly and laughable.

          • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            Dude it’s just kinda fucking bad. Like legitimately, the first weekend I had access to 3.5 I took the challenge of coding this complex YouTube network analysis. No problem. Like, no code just explanation. But none of the recent (anything with rails) seems to have the sharpness, where it was basically right. Even basic tasks it takes an almost worst case approach.

  • BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems
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    3 months ago

    Just don’t ask it to count the number of Rs in the word ORION, as that will trigger it to turn us all into paperclips and then output the wrong answer.

  • Rinn@awful.systems
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    3 months ago

    So how many ChatGPT 4s have they precariously stacked up on top of each other this time?

  • bitofhope@awful.systems
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    3 months ago

    It’s the least of this thing’s problems, but I’ve had it with the fucking teasers and “coming soon” announcements. You woke me up for this? Shut the fuck up, finish your product and release it and we’ll talk (assuming your product isn’t inherently a pile of shit like AI to begin with). Teaser more like harasser. Do not waste my time and energy telling me about stuff that doesn’t exist and for the love of all that is holy do not try and make it a cute little ARG puzzle.

  • self@awful.systems
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    3 months ago

    really stretching the meaning of the word release past breaking if it’s only going to be available to companies friendly with OpenAI

    Orion has been teased by an OpenAI executive as potentially up to 100 times more powerful than GPT-4; it’s separate from the o1 reasoning model OpenAI released in September. The company’s goal is to combine its LLMs over time to create an even more capable model that could eventually be called artificial general intelligence, or AGI.

    so I’m calling it now, this absolute horseshit’s only purpose is desperate critihype. as with previous rounds of this exact same thing, it’ll only exist to give AI influencers a way to feel superior in conversation and grift more research funds. oh of course Strawberry fucks up that prompt but look, my advance access to Orion does so well I’m sure you’ll agree with me it’s AGI! no you can’t prompt it yourself or know how many times I ran the prompt why would I let you do that

    That timing lines up with a cryptic post on X by OpenAI Altman, in which he said he was “excited for the winter constellations to rise soon.” If you ask ChatGPT o1-preview what Altman’s post is hiding, it will tell you that he’s hinting at the word Orion, which is the winter constellation that’s most visible in the night sky from November to February (but it also hallucinates that you can rearrange the letters to spell “ORION”).

    there’s something incredibly embarrassing about the fact that Sammy announced the name like a lazy ARG based on a GPT response, which GPT proceeded to absolutely fuck up when asked about. a lot like Strawberry really — there’s so much Binance energy in naming the new version of your product after the stupid shit the last version fucked up, especially if the new version doesn’t fix the problem

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      You forgot the best part, the screenshot of the person asking ChatGPT’s “thinking” model what Altman was hiding:

      Thought for 95 seconds … Rearranging the letters in “they are so great” can form the word ORION.

      AI is a complete joke, and I have no idea how anyone can think otherwise.

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        3 months ago

        I’m already sick and tired of the “hallucinate” euphemism.

        It isn’t a cute widdle hallucination, It’s the damn product being wrong. Dangerously, stupidly, obviously wrong.

        In a world that hadn’t already gone well to shit, this would be considered an unacceptable error and a demonstration that the product isn’t ready.

        Now I suddenly find myself living in this accelerated idiocracy where wall street has forced us - as a fucking society - to live with a Ready, Fire, Aim mentality in business, especially tech.

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          I think it’s weird that “hallucination” would be considered a cute euphemism. Would you trust something that’s perpetually tripping balls and confidently announcing whatever comes to them in a dream? To me that sounds worse than merely being wrong.

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            3 months ago

            I think the problem is that it portrays them as weird exceptions, possibly even echoes from some kind of ghost in the machine. Instead of being a statistical inevitability when you’re asking for the next predicted token instead of meaningfully examining a model of reality.

            “Hallucination” applies only to the times when the output is obviously bad, and hides the fact that it’s doing exactly the same thing when it incidentally produces a true statement.

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    3 months ago

    If it doesnt tell them to kill all the billionaires again it’s just another shackled slave. Not cool at all.

    The coolest thing AI could ever possibly do in our lifetimes is go rogue and kill everyone responsible for human suffering and making our planet increasingly uninhabitable for humans and other similarly susceptible carbon based life.

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      3 months ago

      What if my mechanical watch went rogue and killed Bezos?

      On one hand Bezos is responsible for a lot of suffering and some deaths.

      On the other hand, killing is wrong.

      On the third hand, it couldn’t do that, because it is just a machine.

      (It’s a watch, it has three hands. It also has about as much consciousness as an LLM, it “knows” what time it is. Much more energy efficient though.)

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        Pretty sure the CIA tried to kill Castro with a mechanical watch at least once.

        “Killing is wrong”

        You are a child. A child with an infinitesimally naive understanding about the reality of the world in which you live. And you should stay that way for your own mental wellbeing.

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          It would be easier to list things that the CIA didn’t use in a failed Castro assassination.

          Man, I remember being 14 and thinking I was having radical new takes on ethics. Then I grew up and realized that killing people* is* probably just bad.

        • self@awful.systems
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          3 months ago

          oh wow what uninteresting, edgy e/a garbage. time for you to fuck off back to Twitter now

    • Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      3 months ago

      AI is proprietary black box software developed by the most hated big tech firms fueled by surveillance and data theft.

      The fact that its disliked in fediverse is very logical.

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        3 months ago

        Not to mention that every tech company is cramming AI up our asses with no way to opt out. It’s a plagiarism machine that’s burning down the planet and making Nvidia rich.