This was in Lemmy world politics.

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    2 months ago

    Because it’s clearly normal for your typography and patience to improve when you’re pissed off

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    finally a space to diss on jordanlund bless 😭

    i was banned by this mod for politely noting how certain comments lead to escalation of inappropriate behavior. i noted how by bantering with infringing accounts after comment removal, !world@lemmy.world mods actually increased the work they needed to do to remove abusive content and amplified toxic voices as a whole. i used no unkind language and really at the time i genuinely hoped for improvement to the quality of the community.

    their response?

    • permabanned
    • for “mod abuse”
    • one month after i made the post in question

    don’t use !world@lemmy.world. their entire mod team is dedicated to just kind of fucking around in a sandbox with thousands of users, not to creating a space for genuine constructive world news engagement. preferably also just stop using lemmy.world when possible.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Power tripping bastard for sure, banning someone for misspelling words? If anything that makes him look like a troll, not the OP.

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      I swear I’ve seen this same situation some time ago including with the exact misspelling. Could be a coincidence, though.

      EDIT: searching misspelling banned gives a comment by OP from 23 days ago (but the post is gone). I’m assuming what I remember seeing was probably this post before it was deleted and reposted.

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    I feel the separation between staff and user has already been entrenched.

    Looking at modlogs, at times the given reasons show to me at least that they, the mods, have grown tired and are now settling on getting rid of potential trouble rather than fixing it.

    Experienced can also mean jaded and in that state of mind you no longer care about circumstances, you just want to get shit done so you’ll be rid of another stress you don’t want to deal with.

    Mods also need a timeout. The volunteer excuse can only work for so long. A way has to be found to prevent them from feeling like they’re in a deadend job where they’re only greeted with hostility. We need a mod relaxation and decompression program.

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      Moderation is like politics, and inherently attracts the most narcissistic and authoritarian, so it must be decentralized. As in users have to mod 1 comment/post for every n number of comments/posts they post &/or read after they’ve been active n number of months, but it would need to be done by averaging moderation across a random sample of users; preferencing users who are least bias and more trusted over time (but without growing dependent on them or their own safe spaces). I’d be happy to mod if it were an occasional part of participation, but I don’t want to mod everything, or it to be expected of me when I’m busy with life, or to do it permanently.

      FYI Lemmy will ultimately fail because the lead dev is a pathetic despot tankie manchild, as bad as the worst mods on reddit. He created Lemmy to admin ml as his own safe space. He will never give up the power it’s given him. It will need to be forked to solve the core problems.

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    There are three things that are certain in life: death, taxes and internet moderators being power tripping cucks.

  • I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com@sh.itjust.works
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    So excluding people due to a potential: innocent mistake, minor lack of knowledge, language difference (as simple as UK vs US English, and or different spelling from a different language you might speak. Either way, if you look it up, the spelling you used is not uncommon, it’s even used in some MSM reports and documentaries), learning and or one of many other disabilities, shit device.

    And they say we create echo chambers when we want to get away from such bullshit.

    https://medium.com/no-prescription-needed/grammar-the-worlds-most-under-recognized-social-construct-a54e096ecc9c

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      The fancy name for that is “linguistic prejudice”. It’s as old as language, and deeply ingrained in human societies, and it’s typically subconscious - like, you don’t even know why you don’t like a certain feature, until you try to find which groups use it.

      With that said, if I saw someone spell “palastinian” I’d expect the person to be an English monolingual. Native speakers tend to remember words by their spoken form (non-native ones often do it by the written form), and /ə/ can be represented by ⟨a⟩ or ⟨e⟩ there anyway.

      I love the link by the way. Good example of the issue.

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    I was banned from c/politics by that same mod because of bullshit reasons too. They’re a petty tyrant who can’t handle anything that might disrupt their echo chamber.

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      I just stopped activity in all places that mod had power in. I already had issues with news on lw.

      Going to migrate instances later.

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    It’s a systematic problem. The large LW communities have a stranglehold that prevents new ones from taking hold.

    For Lemmy to improve, there needs to be a very easy way to find new communities, particularly on different instances!

    Currently there is no way to navigate communities on other instances without a direct keyword search, or by opening a private window to get the link directly from the other server as a logged off user. Clicking the ‘Communities’ link also needs to default to rising new communities, and not to existing communities.

    There also needs to be a major change to the hot/active sorting algorithm to favor small communities with higher engagement % over large ones with higher net upvotes (lower engagement %). The top ten communities should be changing from month to month - otherwise large communities will only get further entrenched and moderation will only get worse.

    This is a change that the devs would have to implement. Otherwise dbzer0 or lemmyzip or whatever other server that grows next will just eventually turn into LW and the same problem will repeat.

    Does anyone know if these ideas have already been discussed in a closed pull request?

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    I was recently site wide banned for 30 days for something I said on LW so I blocked the entire instance. I wish this was just an LW issue but it feels like I have to walk carefully around glass. Ultimately what I said was wrong, but it’s not a good look.

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      Bad faith should absolutely be punished, for its own sake, and by name. But permanent bans are the dumbest thing a moderator can do. It guarantees nobody learns. It chases people to new accounts. It gives people every reason to go behind your back and tell people you’re a power-tripping bastard.

      What needs tolerance is telling trolls to fuck off. Even when their actions don’t rise to whatever asinine cutoff a moderator thinks trolling is - forcing people to play nice with dishonest assholes is psychic vampirism. They fundamentally need to be taken seriously, for their bullshit to work. ‘Assume good faith or else!’ is a gift to trolls.

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      Hmm, yeah i thought trolling is specific enough but after some thought it could mean prank(in a good way) or deliberately provoke with inflammatory statement without the intention of debate. So i agree.

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      it’s better to be specific and ban the obnoxious things trolls do instead of trying to speculate about their state of mind.

      I couldn’t agree more with this.

      The difference between a troll and a genuine poster is intention - but nobody knows someone else’s intentions. And mods should not act based on what they don’t know.