• Affidavit@lemm.ee
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    16 days ago

    Years later, and I’m still with Hillary on this one… WHY IS THERE A GARDEN IN THE SINK!?

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      Not sure if you’re serious or not but it’s an easy way to water your plants all the way through without making a wet mess. Everyplace I’ve ever worked at this is how we watered the office plants.

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        This is how I water them at home.

        Put plant in sink. Soak with water. Allow to drain. Use draining as an excuse not to do dishes. Get irritated with myself for not putting the plant back as I catch myself needing to drain the pasta I’m cooking for dinner so I shuffle shit around while almost burning myself. Put plant back.

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    So far I only see dead people and no changes whatsoever. Remains to be seen if there is going to be any improvement whatsoever (considering Trump isn’t even in office yet, it’s probably going to get worse), though at least the owners and top-level managers are probably more scared than before.

    People would need to start fighting a guerilla war against insurance companies, and I don’t think they have high chances of winning that war.

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      Blue Cross rolled back their decision on anesthesia, which was they would say how long a procedure should take and if it goes longer than they wouldn’t cover the cost of anesthesia.

      So that’s 1 win.

      It’s also got a lot of people openly talking about improving our shitty healthcare system.

      Plus it only happened a couple days ago, people need time to stew. And the rightwing media siding with the CEO is even coming across as deaf to the concerns of the conservatives I know.

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      I just hope some copy cats start popping up. Get a couple more CEOs and they’ll all really start to be concerned.

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      I think there’s some hope. Even Trump voters hate healthcare CEOs. They of course see them as commies because of the relatively authoritarian laws around health insurance in the US, and to them, laws = communism (even if said laws include literally having to pay money to capitalists)

      So I’m sure there are plenty of people on the right, too, who see the merit of shooting a health insurance CEO or two. And those people tend to have guns.

      I’m sure that recent events will inspire some copycats now that people have seen that even gigacorps CEOs and boards CAN be scared.

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    16 days ago

    It’s the natural solution and I’m surprised it’s taken so long. I hope he stays free.

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      I mean I guess it’s the last solution, after laws that work for people, politics that work for people etc etc

      Even if the attacker gets caught, if it changes minds enough to overhaul the American healthcare system then you could say it was worth doing, when compared to the many lives lost to corporate greed.

      I doubt it will but let’s see!

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        I see what you are trying to say, but the history of human society and social living, any one person exhibiting anti-social behaviour, would be excluded from the tribe.

        Who was it that said “if a monkey tried to hoard all the bananas like billionaires hoard money, the rest of the pack would simply tear him, limb from limb. ?

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    Two issues:

    ~ The problem persist despite the incident. Maybe this is the beginning of a sea change for healthcare in the US, but so far, it’s a single ring wave in the pond.

    ~ Europe is no stranger to problems being solved, including each other, via violence.

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      100% This moment can help galvanize people to the need to fix our Healthcare, but random acts of violence won’t fix it, people organizing together will.

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      The problem persist despite the incident. Maybe this is the beginning of a sea change for healthcare in the US, but so far, it’s a single ring wave in the pond.

      not really, they turned back on their anesthesia claims, people have been getting their requests approved.

      If they start going back on it, I’m sure another CEO shooting will clear that right up for them again.

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        I hope you’re willing to volunteer yourself to go to prison for murder along with dealing with the fact you took a human’s life. Because this single incident isn’t going to lead to long term change. Or are you fine to just sit back while insisting others do what you won’t?

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          All it really takes is one person with a now terminal illness that has previously been denied lifesaving healthcare to decide they want to take someone with them on the way down. I’m sure there are quite a few people in the US in that situation.

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      Europe is no stranger to problems being solved, including each other, via violence.

      Central, western and northern Europe have left the dark timeline nearly 80 years ago though. Hopefully the USA will follow at some point.

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        Eastern Eurooe hasn’t and they’re currently acting as a buffer from it spreading further west, which it seems likely western and central Eurooe are happy to allow if you pay attention to how they vote.

        Of course then their are the exports, France doing a bang up job of using organsied violence in places like New Caledonia etal.

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    How do you think we got healthcare? By begging kings? No, we got it as result of revolution.

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      What revolution would that have been? From my limited understanding universal healthcare emerged as a byproduct of the industislistation, when states where confronted with a fast growing population of poor citizens that flocked to the cities and needed caring for in some sense. Bismarck intruduced the first European Healthcare system with the goal of keeping workers alive and healthy.

      So, to answer my own question, if anything then the industrial revolution (aka capitalism) gave us healthcare.

      Somehow I don’t think that’s where you were going with your comment.

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    Lol, absolutely fucking not.

    More like

    success

    (perhaps not in abolishing the system quite yet, but in finally understanding the inevitability of how that’ll have to happen)

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    idk why the username was cropped out but this absolute BANGER of a tweet was made by gldivittorio just saying this because i absolutely love her work and she’s really based as a bonus to being funny

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    Ah yeah Hillary, famous opponent of single payer healthcare and patsy of the insurance companies.