• Jin@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Big lan party But I’m sure there will be outside content somehow

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    This sucks, I’ve met so many very cool and interesting Russian people. The internet is meant to connect people not box them in an echo chamber.

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      yeah, you met two cool russian people. Millions of older family members are being bombarded with propaganda from the rest of the russians that are less cool.

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    As a queer person in a place currently under russian control, I find a lot of the comments in favour of the censorship problematic. Being gay in public is illegal here, so a lot of our queer people find communities on the Internet. Being cut off from those would be terrible.

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    Russia tests cutting itself their citizens off from the rest of the internet

    The state would certainly continue to interfere with the rest.

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      If everybody but the state is blocked, then any connections from Russia would be pretty fucking obviously the state. Honestly, that’s the best thing that could happen, since it would make figuring out what they are doing easy as fuck. But I have no doubt they are smart enough to just send their teams to China or something like North Korea does.

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      In the long term is will fuck over their ability to hack stuff. You’re essentially ruining people’s ability to develop talent at tech. Even if u want to train them in it as military, it would be new to them.

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    Yeah I’m sure going full north Korea and cutting of everyone below the government is gonna work well

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      Depends upon how you measure “well”.

      The Kim dynasty is still going strong, three generations in. Odds are that the Kims and probably a number of people at the top would be worse-off if things changed. From their perspective, things probably are going pretty well in North Korea.

      Of course, the standard of living of the North Korean public is pretty horrendous, the economy is undeveloped, and North Korea doesn’t have a lot of international clout. If your metric is whether the typical person in society is living well or whether the country is powerful, wealthy, or secure, then things aren’t going very well.

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        NK never had Internet. The people never lost anything. Everyone in Russia is online. They might not have toilets, but they have mobile data.

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          Partially right. North Korean citizens didn’t have internet, but there was a internet connection. I think it was on Reddit where someone found the Peering router and was able to get a rough network topology. It’s how red star OS was found out. They also found apple devices connected to the neteork.

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        Odds are that the Kims and probably a number of people at the top would be worse-off if things changed.

        I mean, when you compare North Korea to the poorer parts of the periphery that capitulated to neoliberal capital - Haiti, Liberia, the former Yugoslavian states, Argentina right now, the Philippines, Lebanon or Iraq or Gaza - even the lay resident is getting out reasonably well off. They aren’t living in an active war zone, they’ve got a backwards but still functional economy, and they’re even making inroads on foreign trade at long last.

        The xenophobic siege mentality of the Kims appears to have spared them a far worse fate, just by keeping the country isolated from shit like COVID and The War on Terror. They never got the windfall of the 20th century industrial economy, but they also didn’t get systematically wiped out like American Natives or Black Angolans or Rohingya Muslims.

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          The isolation may have delayed the impact of covid, but they were hit hard with it when it did get in. They cut off food imports as part of this effort and people were starving. Kim turned down vaccine offers on a couple of occasions, though they may have gotten the Russian vaccine.

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      What makes you think the worst parts won’t still get through or be allowed through…like troll farms or hacking groups?

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        Well if they cut themselves off, then why wouldn’t western nations just finish the job and block all Russian IPs from connecting? Make them travel outside of Russia to set up propaganda machines. Sure, it won’t have much of an effect, but it’ll annoy them, and that’s something.

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          They’d just do the same thing anyone does when the want to obscure their home IP. Just use VPNs, route though sympathetic counties, or other ways to hide who you are. It’d just be a constant game of whack-a-mole. Why do you think we can’t just block people who hack our infrastructure or companies can’t so easily block data thieves? If all it took was blocking a couple addresses or a range it would be easy.

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    To the people thinking this means Russia will no longer be able to interfere with other countries over the internet: you are probably mistaken. Disinformation teams will still be connected to the internet. All this will mean is Russians having even less exposure to the world outside of what little Vladolf wants them to see.

    It will probably make the European CS2 servers less toxic though.

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          Is this an EVE reference? It’s been at least 10 years since I’ve last played… ah the memories.

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      How are we going to get more treasures like “Blending in with the Russians”?

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      It’s not about what Russians can get from the outside, it’s more about what they can get to the outside.

      I think the idea is to have some capacity to temporarily preserve some connectivity, while mowing down protesters or something like that.

      They are doing such exercises for like 10 years btw.

      But when the war in Ukraine stops with some “mission accomplished” ceasefire, there will likely be more violent signs of popular disagreement with Putin. Because, well, people with combat experience will come back. Some of them to ask for money on the streets, some of them to abuse their relatives and neighbors, and some of them to do crime, and some of them probably to stir shit up.

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    Wouldn’t it collapse their economy? Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world? And doesn’t a shitton of money flow into Russia via ransomware

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      Like how many Russians are digital sex workers selling content to the rest of the world?

      I think those will move somewhere with Internet connectivity.

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      Wow, you are really brainwashed if you think the macro-economy of a country depend on these…

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        All that this person ever sees Russians do is be a digital sex worker. Surely that means it must represents most of their economy, right? What else can we believe but our eyes? The internet cables connecting the west and Russia must then be like the Nordstream projects, we’ve been manoeuvred into a situation of terrible dependence on this Russian natural resource. How will we ever escape from it?