Same but I think it will soon not be enough. I still cant believe it’s now so difficult to not be a google product, this is a digital nightmare built by decades of unregulated capitalism. Kiss my ass GAFAM.
I mean, nothing is forcing anyone to use any specific product, and there are certainly smartphones with neither Android or iOS.
Personally, at some point I will switch from iPhone to an Android device that can work with something independent like /e/ or one of the other decent ones.
Different threat models have different necessities. I believe a regular user should avoid Google ( or rather all of GAFAMBATX) connections at all costs. I think everybody (me included, of course) is better off with a dumbphone than a Degoogled phone.
It’s obvious we have different opinions, I respect your right to run any system as you want. I don’t think I have any more to contribute to this topic.
Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you it’s just I don’t run anything that’s as privacy-necessary as you. My actual phone is iPhone and all the Android stuff I experiment with are lab systems for tinkering, rom mod testing etc. If I had anything that was being used for any really private or sensitive data, hell yes I would use something completely detached from anything google.
Its a common misconception that banking apps don’t work on grapheneOS.
In some cases there is a feature call “expliot protection compatibility mode” that you have to enable, but the OS does it automatically for most banking apps.
Glad I use GrapheneOS and don’t use any Google apps or services anymore it’s amazing how I no longer get spam calls and texts since the switch.
I de-google everything I can.
Same but I think it will soon not be enough. I still cant believe it’s now so difficult to not be a google product, this is a digital nightmare built by decades of unregulated capitalism. Kiss my ass GAFAM.
I mean, nothing is forcing anyone to use any specific product, and there are certainly smartphones with neither Android or iOS.
Personally, at some point I will switch from iPhone to an Android device that can work with something independent like /e/ or one of the other decent ones.
De-googling is not enough, there must be nothing to de-Google from the start.
That’s one approach but far more limited than just using a Google-free Android build like Lineage.
I know, that’s why I advocate for going Google free from the outset.
Well, it may be ideal, but that is not the same as absolutely necessary.
Different threat models have different necessities. I believe a regular user should avoid Google ( or rather all of GAFAMBATX) connections at all costs. I think everybody (me included, of course) is better off with a dumbphone than a Degoogled phone.
It’s obvious we have different opinions, I respect your right to run any system as you want. I don’t think I have any more to contribute to this topic.
Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you it’s just I don’t run anything that’s as privacy-necessary as you. My actual phone is iPhone and all the Android stuff I experiment with are lab systems for tinkering, rom mod testing etc. If I had anything that was being used for any really private or sensitive data, hell yes I would use something completely detached from anything google.
Don’t you have issues with banking apps then? It’s the one thing holding me back from switching, but I haven’t really done a deep dive in it.
Its a common misconception that banking apps don’t work on grapheneOS.
In some cases there is a feature call “expliot protection compatibility mode” that you have to enable, but the OS does it automatically for most banking apps.
Most work
No my bank app doesn’t even use Google Play in anyway depends on the bank.
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I wish I had a Pixel.