• Australis13@fedia.io
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    Some parts of the paper are available here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0896627324008080?via=ihub

    It doesn’t look like these “bits” are binary, but “pieces of information” (which I find a bit misleading):

    “Quick, think of a thing… Now I’ll guess that thing by asking you yes/no questions.” The game “Twenty Questions” has been popular for centuries as a thinking challenge. If the questions are properly designed, each will reveal 1 bit of information about the mystery thing. If the guesser wins routinely, this suggests that the thinker can access about million possible items in the few seconds allotted. Therefore, the speed of thinking—with no constraints imposed—corresponds to 20 bits of information over a few seconds: a rate of 10 bits/s or less.

    The authors do draw a distinction between the sensory processing and cognition/decision-making, at least:

    To reiterate: human behaviors, including motor function, perception, and cognition, operate at a speed limit of 10 bit/s. At the same time, single neurons can transmit information at that same rate or faster. Furthermore, some portions of our brain, such as the peripheral sensory regions, clearly process information dramatically faster.

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      So ten concepts per second? Ten ideas per second? This sounds a little more reasonable. I guess you have to read the word “bit” like you’re British, and it just means “part.” Of course this is still miserably badly defined.

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        There is no other definition of bit that is valid in a scientific context. Bit literally means “binary digit”.

        Information theory, using bits, is applied to the workings of the brain all the time.

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          How do you know there is no other definition of bit that is valid in a scientific context? Are you saying a word can’t have a different meaning in a different field of science?

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              Actual neuroscientists define their terms in their papers. Like the one you refuse to read because you’ve already decided it’s wrong.

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                Actual neuroscientists do not create false definitions for well defined terms. And they absolutely do not need to define basic, unambiguous terminology to be able to use it.

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                    Binary digit, or the minimum additional information needed to distinguish between two different equally likely states/messages/etc.

                    It’s same usage as information theory, because information theory applies to, and is directly used by, virtually every relevant field of science that touches information in any way.

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        Indeed not. So using language specific to binary systems - e.g. bits per second - is not appropriate in this context.