• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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    There’s a lot of irrelevant apologism going on here (from which I will take that, deep down, you probably feel a little guilty about excusing cold-blooded murder - which at least proves that you’re human). To respond to just the first point: no, chaos and vigilantism are not the only way that “civilizations advance”. Some of the most advanced civilizations (let’s say: Switzerland, Japan, even Britain) have managed to reform incrementally, without the need for the bloody revolution you are advocating. Recourse to lawless chaos (France 1793, America soon apparently) is a sign that one’s civilization is a failure not that it’s “advancing”.

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      Some of the most advanced civilizations (let’s say: Switzerland, Japan, even Britain) have managed to reform incrementally,

      You might want to read up on Japan pre-WW2. They reformed from looting and razing other countries and having a self-professed rape problem due to getting trounced.

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        Irrelevant. Japan’s civilization was already “advanced” and the reforms were entirely peaceful. Unless you’re advocating for foreign wars of conquest as a solution to America’s feckless inability to get itself universal healthcare?