• Riley@lemmy.ml
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    Damn, this thread is the most “no one hates Doctor Who more than Doctor Who fans” type beat I’ve seen in ages. God forbid our favourite television show get another season.

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    If the rumours that DW is going to be put on hiatus for 10 years and the sets taken down and production staff let go I can only say… it’s about time.

    The (original) show was never about cartoony, fizzed-up comic action without subtlety or nuance that tried to pick up the audiences of Strictly and Love Island. It didn’t need a budget of $1 million per episode. It didn’t need Disney. Time for a rest and then a regeneration.

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    They destroyed this show with modern audience bullshit. It used to be a great escape from reality, and now it’s just more propaganda. It really sucks because Jodie Whittaker and Ncuti Gatwa could have been soooo much better at the roles if it weren’t for the horrid writing.

    David Tennant and Matt Smith were peak Doctor Who. Even Eccleston (the twat) had a great story arc…

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      I’m not super familiar with Eccleston’s politics but he had some amazing stories while in the Tardis and what he has spoken of his leaving the series, which has been entirely backed up by everyone who spoke about it after, was entirely due to mistreatment from higher ups to the little people that make the show work.

      Maybe I have a huge blindspot but I don’t see much reason to get mad at him when he brought up some legitimate concerns, and his departure was a catalyst for conditions improving.

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      I am hopefully going to get the chance to talk to Jodie in the next couple of months(Denver fan fest), and I am going ask her how she tolerated the writers for her episodes. (I have a bit to figure out how word that nicely.

      She is probably my second favorite Dr to Tennant, FWIW.

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        She won’t talk negatively about them. None of them will. Not for not wanting to, I’m sure - but out of professionalism. I don’t think any of the previous actors would either. Although…maybe Eccleston would (the twat)…

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            His refusal to show up as the doctor for anything fan related, his own dislike for the show, etc. He’s a twat.

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              He played a character on a TV show 20 years ago. That doesn’t in any way obligate him to “show up as the Doctor” for fan events, nor does it indicate his “dislike for the show”.

              There is certainly a twat at play here, but it isn’t Eccleston.

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                He also has done a bunch of conventions and returned to play the Doctor for Big Finish multiple times lol.

                As far as I can tell he has no problem with the role or the fans, he just has a beef withe the BBC/Russell T. Davies over how he was treated.

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                  Exactly. How he was treated by the producers and showrunner back when he played the part, and by some entitled fans who seem to think they somehow still have a perpetual lease on him and his time twenty years later.

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                He was like that even while playing the role, he’s been a twat for all 20 of those years. He refused to take part in the anniversary specials, he was a dickhead when he was on set according to people who worked with him. He’s always been a prick of an actor.

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                  You’ll find the general opinion of Eccleston runs contrary to yours, and manages to do so without the pottymouth.

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        I need to rewatch Jodie’s seasons again. Thought she was a brilliant actor doing the best she could with the script/stories presented. No idea how things got so bad but she was one of the few good things about those days.

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        Bludgeoning social matters into everyone’s heads using garbage storylines. Like Time Traveling Space-Nazis trying to sit in Rosa Parks seat…

        The constant references to racism, equality, blah blah blah blah…

        Doctor Who has always had these things as a subtext to their episodes but that’s what they were…SUBTEXT. They weren’t front-and-center bludgeon you over the head with ongoing social issues shit.

        That’s why everyone stopped watching and why their viewership is in the trash.