• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    See you might have voted for Harris but people who go online and read comments like “Fuck the Democrats” and “Democrats are Centrists” didn’t. People didn’t vote for Harris because of shit like your comment.

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      Oh yeah, I’m sure it had nothing to do with people like you yelling at people that they’re monsters for even slightly criticizing the DNC and Harris campaign.

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      People didn’t vote for Harris because her campaign sucked ass, it’s her and her staff who failed to convince people to vote for her, not people who voiced their dissatisfaction with her proposed policy. They need to do better, and if they do, then people excercising their freedom of speech on the internet won’t sway votes away from the party. Idea that people shouldn’t be allowed to complain about the genocide because it voices loudly the dissatisfaction over the party actions and that may lead to lower voter turnout is flawed to it’s core. Those comments are the symptom of the problem, the sign that there is something wrong with the way they directed the campaign, not the source of it. You will get nowhere by silencing the dissidents, you need to take away their reasons to complain, not their means. Until Dems learn this lesson, they won’t win elections again, not with the antiestabilishment vibes and lack of trust towards the government that are prevailent im USA. Not only this messaging of censure won’t work, it will only piss off the electorate and alienate them further. Before the elections I have assumed that this campaign to shame people into voting was a psy op, but it seems like it’s actually their position on the matter, which definitely makes me think they’re controlled opposition at this point. They can’t actually think this kind of messaging helps them in any way, right? This arrogant approach is specifically why Republican electorate hates them. If they want to win, like, ever, they need to work on that.

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        I’m sorry their message didn’t vibe with you but the Harris policy stances were all on point, minus that shit Walz had to say about Israeli borders. But the vast majority of Americans seemed unaware of the policy stances being on point because of the constant whinging of people online about how they don’t trust her.

        Here is an idea, buy Twitter, Meta, Google, WaPo, and TikTok and start propagandizing like the GOP had on their side. She’d probably win by 20 Mil minimum. That’s how fucking easy it is to trick the USA, not even any politics involved, just fuck with the kid’s vibe feeds and watch them destroy themselves. Even talking with you lowers my faith in humanity.

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        Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 did not show up to vote for Harris in 2024. Trumps numbers hardly changed at all.

        It really is that simple, no enthusiasm among the left due to infighting and degrading our candidate.

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          no enthusiasm among the left due to infighting and degrading our candidate.

          First, the democrats are not “the left”. Don’t even pretend. Dick Cheney is on their side and they lauded that, ffs.

          Second, we all did our damnedest to bite our tongues over your pro-cop, pro-israel bae, but everyone is well aware she was a piece of shit candidate. “Infighting” isn’t what cost the democrats the vote. “Pushing forward another intensely bad choice and then running a bad campaign that failed to win anyone over” did. You left people stuck between an insane choice and a miserable one. Should they have chosen misery? Sure, but don’t parade around acting like everyone should have proudly accepted the miserable one. That’s the attitude that has cost your country everything. The democrats are continuing to prove they just have no idea how to lead themselves or act in any meaningful way in the face of fascism.

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            If you’re fighting against the Democrats then you’re promoting fascism. We live in a first past the post 2 party system.

            You can have progressive reform or fascism, stop choosing fascism.

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              Call me when the democrats actually do something to fight fascism then. I predict you’ll continue to side with them as they continue to sit on their asses whining “it’s not allowed!” while your country invades mine. Cut a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

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      If a Democrat’s billion dollar war chest can’t stand against an anonymous online person saying “Democrats are centrists” maybe they shouldn’t be centrists.