As someone who has spent too much of their life being homeless (living in a homeless shelter ATM), shelter comes in many forms, including a sleeping bag or tent.
Without ANY protection from the elements, depending on locale, 3 hours is totally doable or problematic.
Reading your comment made me really upset man. I don’t know who you are or what life has thrown at you and I hope every day you are making it by at the very least.
From one internet stranger to another I am sorry life can be shit man. I hope things look up for you.
I’ve spent a bit of my life “on the street” as it were. That being said, I’ve only slept rough for a total of two to three months so far. I hear what you’re saying about being totally exposed, especially in harsh weather, but I still think that 3 hours is on the outside of the bell curve.
I guess it’s dependant on clothing. 3 hours in the arctic in a hoodie? Dead. 3 hours in the desert naked? Heat stroke maybe, though enough water would keep you going while you turn into a lobster.
Yeah nevernind it’s a fucking stupid rule of thumb.
This is the most unnecessary nerd comment I’ll ever make on this platform… but
I believe the bell curve wouldn’t represent the expected distribution in this case. I m not entirely sure what would be the correct distribution but I suspect Chi^2 or poisson.
I just appreciate that people are talking about it. Worst case, it helps them remember the other guidelines (or whatever you want to call them, I didn’t make them up.)
The 3 hours without shelter stat is suspect. People experiencing homelessness exist, and they go years at times without shelter.
The rest of the stats seem to be a comfortable average.
As someone who has spent too much of their life being homeless (living in a homeless shelter ATM), shelter comes in many forms, including a sleeping bag or tent.
Without ANY protection from the elements, depending on locale, 3 hours is totally doable or problematic.
Reading your comment made me really upset man. I don’t know who you are or what life has thrown at you and I hope every day you are making it by at the very least.
From one internet stranger to another I am sorry life can be shit man. I hope things look up for you.
I’ve spent a bit of my life “on the street” as it were. That being said, I’ve only slept rough for a total of two to three months so far. I hear what you’re saying about being totally exposed, especially in harsh weather, but I still think that 3 hours is on the outside of the bell curve.
I guess it’s dependant on clothing. 3 hours in the arctic in a hoodie? Dead. 3 hours in the desert naked? Heat stroke maybe, though enough water would keep you going while you turn into a lobster.
Yeah nevernind it’s a fucking stupid rule of thumb.
This is the most unnecessary nerd comment I’ll ever make on this platform… but
I believe the bell curve wouldn’t represent the expected distribution in this case. I m not entirely sure what would be the correct distribution but I suspect Chi^2 or poisson.
I was under the impression that unnecessary nerd comments were specifically what this site was for. Did I accidentally stumble back to mIRC?
The ‘withoit shelter’ usually refers to extreme conditions, such as extreme heat or cold, within realistic earth conditions. Think desert, ice water.
I just appreciate that people are talking about it. Worst case, it helps them remember the other guidelines (or whatever you want to call them, I didn’t make them up.)
Let’s say we drop you in Antarctica on a windy night in the winter in jeans and a long sleeve shirt. Three hours might be about right.
Let’s say we drop you in outer space. You’d survive less than 3 hours without shelter, air supplied.
Can’t take an extreme for a general rule.
Depends, if you’re in the shadow you’ll freeze to death in some minutes and if you’re in the light you’ll be scorched in seconds