Ketamine does not have this effect at all. It doesn’t even directly work on the receptors that would invoke such behavior. Half of the stuff in the article is cherry picked to suit a narrative. It doesn’t even include the effect of thinking one can rule the world outside of the clickbait title. And LMAO at pointing out the ketamine delusions of a nutjob who previously tried to use LSD to communicate with dolphins, that was a new one.
(Source: I have been a ketamine user for 15 years with no problems, and I hosted government approved drug education for a while)
Lilly wasn’t a nut job. His dolphin experiments ultimately failed, but it takes courage to try radical scientific experiments. Consider the common attitude towards science in academia these days where so many people fudge their results because they’re afraid of being considered failures. Failure is a part of science because you can learn from it. One of the cool things about Lilly’s experiments is that he didn’t feel the need to commercialise his experiments. They were mostly based on pure scientific inquiry.
I’m just pointing out what most people should take away from the reference to that guy. They are pointing out that ketamine can make you delusional but then use the worst example out there; somebody who already could be considered delusional. That’s cherry picking.
I get that. I just felt the need to defend lilly a bit because I’ve been reading his books since I was a teenager. It’s like when you read something inaccurate about a topic you know. Just wanting to correct the record somewhat.
My usage? Recreational. Although I fully understand that it can be used against depression. There’s something beautiful and soothing in the simplicity of life after a ketamine night.
I’m not sure I can suggest that. Its effects are mostly the same among people but I don’t think everybody would benefit from it. There’s also the constant oppression from governments and outside people that might make your state of mind even worse.
Maybe try it out, but don’t go thinking it’s a miracle drug that’ll heal you without you also doing some work.
Maybe try it out, but don’t go thinking it’s a miracle drug that’ll heal you without you also doing some work.
I have enough drug experience, both prescribed and recreational, that I know better than to think that. But at the same time I understand that subtle things can add up.
Ketamine does not have this effect at all. It doesn’t even directly work on the receptors that would invoke such behavior. Half of the stuff in the article is cherry picked to suit a narrative. It doesn’t even include the effect of thinking one can rule the world outside of the clickbait title. And LMAO at pointing out the ketamine delusions of a nutjob who previously tried to use LSD to communicate with dolphins, that was a new one.
(Source: I have been a ketamine user for 15 years with no problems, and I hosted government approved drug education for a while)
Lilly wasn’t a nut job. His dolphin experiments ultimately failed, but it takes courage to try radical scientific experiments. Consider the common attitude towards science in academia these days where so many people fudge their results because they’re afraid of being considered failures. Failure is a part of science because you can learn from it. One of the cool things about Lilly’s experiments is that he didn’t feel the need to commercialise his experiments. They were mostly based on pure scientific inquiry.
I’m just pointing out what most people should take away from the reference to that guy. They are pointing out that ketamine can make you delusional but then use the worst example out there; somebody who already could be considered delusional. That’s cherry picking.
I get that. I just felt the need to defend lilly a bit because I’ve been reading his books since I was a teenager. It’s like when you read something inaccurate about a topic you know. Just wanting to correct the record somewhat.
Sure thing. I’ll have a look at his stuff.
Recreationally or for depression?
My usage? Recreational. Although I fully understand that it can be used against depression. There’s something beautiful and soothing in the simplicity of life after a ketamine night.
I’m intrigued, but mainly for depression. But unless I get much worse I think I should probably stick to the drugs I already know.
I’m not sure I can suggest that. Its effects are mostly the same among people but I don’t think everybody would benefit from it. There’s also the constant oppression from governments and outside people that might make your state of mind even worse.
Maybe try it out, but don’t go thinking it’s a miracle drug that’ll heal you without you also doing some work.
I have enough drug experience, both prescribed and recreational, that I know better than to think that. But at the same time I understand that subtle things can add up.
The main thing I notice is that it only helps mentally if I go out and do stuff.
Sitting at home and doing it by myself doesn’t really help.