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    the ruling class is as good as ever. why would they murder their own hegemony? where do you think our lack of money is going? why do you think they are doing this stuff to us?

    we are experiencing capitalism as intended. its not dying its just bad and doesnt feel the need to hide it anymore like they did briefly the last few decades.

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      14 hours ago

      Okay, and? Doesn’t change the fact that they’re murdering the current system to replace it with something far more dangerous.

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        i edited my comment after you responded, before i noticed that you did.

        i argue that this is capitalism working as intended. its just that they don’t feel like hiding it anymore. if we just wait and let it collapse it might as well bring the literal habitability of the planet down with it. the burgeoise does not seem to want to stray from this path. the us empire is indeed collapsing, however.

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            see what i mean is thats not sabotage, its neither. thats just squeezing more out of us, poors are getting poorer. the people on the reigns are slightly less dumb than they look.

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              They ARE sabotaging the system that we as a society built though. Nothing is collapsing, they’re just knocking it down on our heads. Who said they were dumb, you?

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                we as a society didn’t build capitalism from the ground up, and capitalism was always supposed to have a boot constantly on our throats. theres nothing being “knocked down”, capitalism isnt going anywhere. there was never democracy in capitalism in the first place.

                they are just taking away the comforts they themselves conceded to us before.

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                  The American capitalist society we built is more than that. That is what is being knocked down.

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                    what you are probably referring to is not capitalism, they would never destroy the source of their own power. its the new deal-era soviet-inspired social security net. capitalism is what remains after they are done.

                    and you only got that because people were getting angry at the capitalists and were organized enough to have actual leverage. they are destroying the island of socialist policies you had.