• AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee
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      5 days ago

      Still incorrect. You wouldn’t have archers sitting there pulling thier bows getting tired until ordered to release

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        5 days ago

        Who said anything about holding the bow nocked all the time?

        Generally they would yell “DRAW!” And the soldiers would nock their arrows and take aim, then they’d yell “LOOSE” to release the arrows in one big salvo.

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          5 days ago

          Yeah I believe this as well, since a coordinated firing of arrows would be more effective, and because still today military commands largely consist of a prepatory phase and an executing phrase.

          Like

          "Company… ATTENTION"

          "EEEEEYEEEEES… RIGHT.

          Preseeeent… ARMS

          etc

          So it’d make sense. The commander just basically gives the tempo, but the commander knows what it feels like to do it, so you don’t get shit like “draw”… [extender pieces of dramatic faces and dialogue which symbolises a loaded gun held to someones face] and then “loose” /relax, because drawing a war bow takes some serious fucking muscle. So the “draw, loose”, would almost be in the same breath. Almost. But one breath apart. But so the voice synchronises them all. Just like it does with steps in modern militaries.

          One still needs a person besides the form goin “left, left, left right left” to achieve the uniformity. Well from a well experienced group, less so, but you still need the starting “company… march” command to sync the starting step at least.

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          You wouldn’t do that because why would you need it to be all at the same time? This is musket logic being applied to bows. Pulling a warbow isn’t something anyone can do. People who did that trained all their lives for it. They literally had a different bone structure and musculature because of it. You don’t get people to wait with a shitload of pounds of force trying to wriggle out and launch an extremely heavy arrow. Hollywood bows are shitty props with loose strings that resemble a child’s toy more than an actual bow.

            • nomy@lemmy.zip
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              5 days ago

              There are so many people in the fediverse who are just typing words because they like to see their name on a screen.

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              4 days ago

              Why would you think there’d be a command at all, other than “when they are in range, kill them”? Why would you wait till people are closer when you start shooting them when you can shoot them when they are further away just fine. It’s not like someone would say “oh fuck these dudes in the front got taken out by archers, time to take out my shield”. They’d just walk with their shield out already. They’d use siege engines to hide from the arrows. They’d have barricades to hide behind. You wouldn’t simply go for the Futurama killbot limit, why would you give your opponent more time to walk towards you

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                4 days ago

                They’re not aiming at individual targets. They’re shooting volleys. That would require coordination.

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                4 days ago

                If you can’t come up with any answers to those questions on your own then I don’t think it’s worth my time responding to this.

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            I can’t cite a specific source since I was researching the subject for a fantasy novel I was writing at the time, and I’m not even sure the material I was reading was in English, but I remember the author was making a comparison to Roman legionnaires throwing their Pila synchronously to maximise their impact/psychological effect. And it made sense to me since every soldier only had two to carry.

            Apparently shooting them in single massive salvos would force their enemies to crowd into one another (they’d have to push someone else into the path of a Pila to avoid one that’s coming at them) which devastated their morale.