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    It turns out all countries have an authoritarian desire and like to do horrible stuff to their civilians. At any point in time some may be better than others. But all of the problems stem from the same root problem of power. It’s a human thing and it’s unavoidable. Something that citizens will always need to fight against.

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    Dont dare talk about communist crimes, cause capitalism murders like 10 million people a day. A day! No you can’t see any proof and you wouldn’t understand russian anyway if I did. Kill all landlords. T. Didn’t finish highschool and get fired from mcdonalds every 3 months.

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    Tankies love to gloss over the fact the US is way more democratic than China despite recent events.

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    In America police violence is shown on tv and presented as a good thing actually, in china it’s not on tv.

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      We still have police in vans running around executing people with guns. I think we should really stop splitting hairs and just settle on both police forces being authoritarian death cultists.

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    “OUR fair and just police vs THEIR brutal murderer cops”

    They should learn that ACAB means “ALL cops are bastards”, not “All cops in the US and not my beloved infallible glorious prc”

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      I vote for politicians that want certain laws.

      Those laws become fact. Cops enforce them.

      Why would they be a bastard?

      I’mma be honest. I have never had a single interaction with a cop in Belgium. They just walk around sometimes.

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        https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/police-violence-belgium-echr/12867

        https://www.brusselstimes.com/670348/true-nature-of-police-violence-in-belgium-hidden-by-transparency-issues

        https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-europe-belgium-violence-race-and-ethnicity-33d5c3ff019ce5065a597432e166deaf

        https://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-police-violence-problem-protest-ibrahima-barrie/

        https://www.enar-eu.org/police-brutality-and-racialised-minors-in-belgium-death-threats-slurs-and-victim-blaming/

        I’ll be honest too. It’s always so weird when a white person plays dumb: “The police never bother me! The police where I live are nice!” Because only a white person is allowed to think such nonsense, regardless of where they live.

        You should question why you don’t already know information someone thousands of miles away from you can find in 10 seconds.

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        You are spoiled by living in Belgium. Most countries outside of Europe have good awful corrupt police.

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        Generally it would be when they choose to selectively enforce those laws to unjustly do things to people they don’t like.

        If that doesn’t happen where you are, count yourself very, very lucky.

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          They can’t do that when those laws don’t exist to begin with.

          People are pretty protected. But now this issue:

          E bikes have been surging the country, theft has increased as well. These bikes have a tracker in them.

          It locates into a certain neighbourhood, later on it will be more precise.

          But people can just deny entrance, so cops (along with the owner) can’t just go and look around.

          Now, this is pretty digitalised eh, the tracker from a third party shows the bike is there. So the owner would really like it if they could just get the bike for him.

          I would vote so that they can just go grab these bikes. Get it over with. Cops entering homes wouldn’t be bastards then.

          Obvious issue: can just put a stolen bike in the neighborhood, have citizen give permission to look for the stolen bike quickly. They enter the house. Plant some evidence. Blablabla.

          But still, I want e bikes to be promoted. Theft to be lowered. There need to be solutions.

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            Without artificial scarcity created by capitalism theft wouldn’t be a problem. Just let abundance of bikes and even if someone steals it you can always borrow another one.

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              Belgium has 250k euros median net wealth. High minimum wage. High social mobility. Tax funded education from age 3 to end of higher education.

              Cheap public transport.

              The e bikes are paid by your taxes when you have a job.

              Young guys steal because they like risk and lack respect

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                High social mobility.

                You got suace for this claim?

                My understanding is that Belgium is highly stratified society with certain groups enjoying very high quality of living while out groups not having access to good jobs

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                  My job requires me to be trustworthy. If I get caught stealing a bike, even though they won’t do much, it might get on crime record. Whenever I look for a new job, I will need to give them my crime record and explain myself.

                  If I, at age 29, am stealing bikes. Then I am just worthless scum.

                  If it’s a 19 year old jobless guy who is still studying and living with his parents, then it’s more acceptable. Even though this kid will be viewed with caution by future employers.

                  We could likely implement city bikes funded by taxes and have them all over the city. Have trackers in them and punish people who hoard/sell them.

                  There’s already a private option for that, costs like 2 euros per day. But it doesn’t seem that popular.

                  Most people enjoy having their own bike, with premium material.

                  My bike is 9700 euros. Of course people will want to steal it. They either don’t know the consequences or think it won’t matter.

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      I have no alt names though–I’m just on a few different instances. I use my same name though.

      Funnily enough, back in the day, people thought I was an alt of linkerbaans.

      You guys seem to believe you see “alts” everywhere, especially if you disagree with someone.

      You know, it could be, that there are more than one or two people that disagree with you. And that’s ok. That doesn’t mean they are the same person. lol

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    honestly im glad someone has called it out, the US is BAD and China is also BAD but with highspeed rail and some better ideas along the way which is tbf GOOD. and if we are criticising everyone i want to know why rent and housing is so unaffordable in most of europe and why landleeches can reap. i also want to know why the hell life is worse for women in so many countries, looking at you india, iran and others. problems dont go away because u ignore them and yes sometimes less bad or least worst is progress too but we must strive for the best hard enough that if we fail to hit it we achieve at least good.

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    Is this a sub dedicated to hand-wringing over tankies and sinoapologists?

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      I’d characterize it as spotlighting, calling out, and lambasting rather than hand-wringing, but yes. From the community info:

      Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!

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        Why don’t you do something productive with your time, like attacking nazis or fascists instead of the few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable.

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          We are. The funny thing is that you tankies are never criticising actual fascists, you spend all of your time handwringing over “liberals”, while regurgitating the propaganda of fascists.

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          Last i checked sanders aint waving the flag that was waved when tens of millions were made to dig their own grave and watch their children get shot and pushed in before they were, to name the more humane, chill and kinda okay atrocity on the commie atrocity tierlist.

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          Pro-authoritarian people should never be ceded credibility, given a platform, or shown anything other than disrespect.

          There’s no such thing as a good person who supports the oppression of others

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            Precisely why I simultaneously agree with some statements by tankies and vehemently oppose them. I’m against all forms of authoritarianism, whether that’s fascist, socialist, or whatever it is both major parties in the US are. Government power should be as limited as possible while protecting the people from each other and foreign elements.

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          What do you think tankies are?

          They are just as much fan of authoritarian police states as nazis.

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          “few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable.”

          actually got a good chuckle out of that line. i hope you don’t genuinely believe that