• grue@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Nah, but I should be able to just keep to myself and not have a conversation without being treated like a predator for it.

    Oh no! Society is judging you unfairly because of your outward appearance? Gee, that almost sounds like the flip side of what the women are complaining about. Sucks, don’t it?

    The answer should be “don’t treat people like shit without knowing them.” That should be the answer.

    That’s not going to work until everybody does it, which means the real answer is “actively work to stop other people from treating people like shit,” and even more specifically, “understand who the aggressors and victims are so you don’t make the problem worse by attacking people who are just trying to defend themselves.”

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      22 hours ago

      You sound mad at me for saying that I should be treated fairly. Women also deal with it yes. But I don’t get why you feel the need to attack me for bringing it up. I’m sure you get upset if someone attacked a woman for being asked to be treated fairly.

      You seem very angry at the world to the point where you are attacking people who want to be your allies and want the same thing. You even say “don’t make the problem worse by attacking people who are just trying to defend themselves” yet here you are with a sarcastic “oh no” and attacking me for literally just saying I want to be treated like a human. The hypocrisy is wild…

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        21 hours ago

        You sound mad at me for saying that I should be treated fairly. Women also deal with it yes. But I don’t get why you feel the need to attack me for bringing it up. I’m sure you get upset if someone attacked a woman for being asked to be treated fairly.

        “Men need to get treated fairly too” is the gender equivalent of “white lives matter.” It’s tone-deaf at best, and more likely deliberately dishonest punching down. Just because a statement is true when considered alone, that doesn’t mean the purpose of saying it can’t be in bad faith when considering context. And that’s exactly what’s happening here.

        You aren’t the victim here, and you know it. How do I know you know it? Because I’m also a man and I know I’m not the victim here either. As a man, I can authoritatively say that men are getting exactly the treatment we deserve. If we don’t like it, it’s on us to change our collective behavior. Period.