People love to act like someone staying up until 3am and sleeping until noon is lazy but really, when you think about it, their sleep schedule is the exact same as someone a few timezones over.

Maybe east coast snoozers are actually just the pacific early risers that never got to be in the right part of the world.

Maybe all someone needs to fix their sleep schedule is a move west? The formulas arent complete but I’m refining my thesis.

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    18 days ago

    Amusing thought, but doesn’t really make sense biologically. Your body doesn’t know your geographical location. It just reads the environmental time using a bunch of different inputs and guesses at what the actual time is. Your body is actually fairly good at guessing the time, but people are just naturally predisposed to sleep later or earlier.

    That tendency is influenced by genetics and also changes over time with age, but I also heavily suspect that people are actually just messing up their circadian clocks without knowing it. Try dimming your lights after sunset, you’d be surprised by how early you get tired.

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      17 days ago

      Wish it worked like that with the lights. I don’t like artificial light so only have some back lights on or none at all most of the time. And will sleep until 1pm with two big windows without blinds in my room.

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        Eating is also a really big factor for the body’s circadian clock. Not sure what your lifestyle is like, but I would try to avoid eating anything when it’s late.

        Interestingly enough, autism is also noted to affect the circadian clock, so it seems like medical and psychological conditions can exert an influence too.

        And it could be entirely possible that you are simply a night owl. I just find it disingenuous that some people would use the circadian clock as a way to justify poor sleep habits, especially if they have habits that disrupt their circadian clock. It kind of dilutes the struggles of actual night owls

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    18 days ago

    Humans didn’t evolve for everyone to have the sleep schedule, because that would have been an incredibly dangerous arrangement for the vast majority of our existence.

    We stay up late when young, “normal” in middle aged, and asleep at 4pm but awake when the teens are just going to bed when elderly

    Obviously there’s variation, but almost no one keeps the same schedule their whole lives.

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      I think that a lot about how many couples I know have mild friction because one of them is an early riser and the other more of a night owl. It can be a bit annoying, but for most of human existence splitting the time you’re awake and vigilant must have been quite an advantage.

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        18 days ago

        People think 2,000 years is a long time, but evolutionary that was like, last Tuesday.

        We’re not built for modern society.

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          We’re not built for modern society.

          We say this as if modern society were imposed on us by aliens—but we built it ourselves with the freedom to adapt it to our existing biological needs.

          We just really fucked it up.

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        There’s been times me and husband pass in the night because we simply slept different schedules. It’s annoying but eventually they realigned!

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        I’m loving this comment section lol this was just a silly idea and here’s a really interesting conversation happening under it

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    I’m a Night Owl and have been from a very young age. I also wish Night Owls were more just considered a thing in this society rather than labeled lazy or deviant. But hey, if you don’t conform to the Capitalist mold, you’re apparently whatever people want to negatively label you as. Unless you’re a Night Auditor, Night Security Guard, Fireman, or Soldier, then you’re a (somewhat) acceptable part of the machine.

    Anyways, here’s a BBC article on why humans might have evolved to have different sleep schedules. It’s an interesting read IMHO.