I didn’t “let” Trump win, I voted against him. The Democrats handed the election to him because they valued genocide and money more than they valued fighting fascism. The Democrats openly bombed the shit out of kids world-wide. Do you think they were happy with you when Biden was bombing them? or do you think they cursed as they were dying?
They did tho. Trump is one of, if not the least popular president we’ve ever had. Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best, and couldn’t find anyone that was more likeable than him?
I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.
Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best
We’re telling you Republicans ran the most propagandized campaign in American history and Americans were too stupid to see through it. This is far more about Americans being stupid and easily manipulated than it is about Democrats running a bad campaign.
Yes, Sanders is a great example. The guy that the DNC literally had to put their finger on the scale to overcome. The guy that polled better than Trump in red states.
I have lived all over the country: The coasts, the middle, the south. I know plenty of people in red states that don’t like Trump, but don’t see the Democrats putting out a candidate that they like. Maybe if the Democrats tried to differentiate themselves from Trump, instead of chasing his policies, they’d do better.
I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.
No, you did not. You engaged in a purely performative action with no statistical chance of a positive outcome against fascism or genocide, so that you could brag about your moral purity while offering up the rest of us to fascists, including your SO, apparently, to feed your ego.
You can lie to others and you can lie to yourself but, the math doesn’t lie. FPTP system with established parties (one of them openly fascist, that already attempted a coup) meant that there were, mathematically, two options (not a false dichotomy but a real one): voting for a candidate with a statistical chance of winning against the fascists, or letting fascists win. You chose the latter and, if we survive this, that’s something that you’ll have to come to terms with and take responsibility for.
The math also doesn’t lie about 3rd parties: If we had all voted for Harris (and that’s a big if), the Dems still wouldn’t have won. The math also doesn’t lie about the Dems: They ran two terrible campaigns, that even Democratic voters stayed home on, rather than support. A bunch of people who voted for Biden ended up voting for Trump in this election. That’s on the Dem leadership.
I completely own up to my vote, and it’s consequences. I wish the Dems would do the same.
I didn’t “let” Trump win, I voted against him. The Democrats handed the election to him because they valued genocide and money more than they valued fighting fascism. The Democrats openly bombed the shit out of kids world-wide. Do you think they were happy with you when Biden was bombing them? or do you think they cursed as they were dying?
They didn’t hand shit.
Nobody should have voted FOR Harris.
Everyone should have voted AGAINST Trump.
It’s childish to even have this discussion.
If the dems had literally run Mitt Romney I would have voted for him gladly.
Becauae, unlike you, I don’t want MORE genocide, and Trump is nothing if not openly pro-genocide.
They did tho. Trump is one of, if not the least popular president we’ve ever had. Are you telling me that the Democrat’s really tried their best, and couldn’t find anyone that was more likeable than him?
I did vote against Trump, but I also voted against Harris. I did that because, unlike you, I didn’t want genocide or fascism.
We’re telling you Republicans ran the most propagandized campaign in American history and Americans were too stupid to see through it. This is far more about Americans being stupid and easily manipulated than it is about Democrats running a bad campaign.
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/super-tuesday/
Sanders got… 1/3 bidens vote?
What magic candidate do you think could have done so much better?
You live so deep up your own ass on the left you don’t understand how stubbornly conservative much of the country is.
That’s why Biden was a good candidate, old and white, mildly racist, he literally aligned with the majority of this worthless trash country.
I’m not white, and I suspect you haven’t lived outside of the coasts, large parts of this country are almost Afghanistan.
Yes, Sanders is a great example. The guy that the DNC literally had to put their finger on the scale to overcome. The guy that polled better than Trump in red states.
I have lived all over the country: The coasts, the middle, the south. I know plenty of people in red states that don’t like Trump, but don’t see the Democrats putting out a candidate that they like. Maybe if the Democrats tried to differentiate themselves from Trump, instead of chasing his policies, they’d do better.
No, you did not. You engaged in a purely performative action with no statistical chance of a positive outcome against fascism or genocide, so that you could brag about your moral purity while offering up the rest of us to fascists, including your SO, apparently, to feed your ego.
You can lie to others and you can lie to yourself but, the math doesn’t lie. FPTP system with established parties (one of them openly fascist, that already attempted a coup) meant that there were, mathematically, two options (not a false dichotomy but a real one): voting for a candidate with a statistical chance of winning against the fascists, or letting fascists win. You chose the latter and, if we survive this, that’s something that you’ll have to come to terms with and take responsibility for.
The math also doesn’t lie about 3rd parties: If we had all voted for Harris (and that’s a big if), the Dems still wouldn’t have won. The math also doesn’t lie about the Dems: They ran two terrible campaigns, that even Democratic voters stayed home on, rather than support. A bunch of people who voted for Biden ended up voting for Trump in this election. That’s on the Dem leadership.
I completely own up to my vote, and it’s consequences. I wish the Dems would do the same.