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davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml to Videos@lemmy.mlEnglish · 5 months ago

The China They Don't Want You to See: Xinjiang

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The China They Don't Want You to See: Xinjiang

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davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml to Videos@lemmy.mlEnglish · 5 months ago
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  • bitofarambler@crazypeople.online
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    this is one of the Xinjiang “reeducation” camps.

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      Cool story

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        not really, they’re indefinite detainees whose families are scared for them.

        like 1 in 6 people in the region.

        it’s not very cool.

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          where did you get this 1 in 6 number?

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            official numbers from China have half a million detainees listed, until they stopped publishing detainee information; most estimates agree that the number of uyghur detainees in total is closer to 2 million.

            12 million uyghyrs / 2 million uyghur detainees, ~1 in 6 uyghurs have been or are still detained.

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              Close to everyone here has been asking you for sources. If you’re going to provide numbers, you need to provide sources. People like @RedWizard@hexbear.net have given you large, well-sourced and thoroughly documented comments, if you respond with “sources” like “it’s widely known” people are going to rightfully dismiss your claims.

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                there have been a lot of questions, I’ve supplied sources to the direct questions.

                you may have missed them in the flurry of comments.

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                  In this entire thread, you’ve provided a podcast from The Economist, a British Propaganda outlet explicitly promoting free-market liberalism and demonizing any country that goes against Western Hegemony, not just China. You should slow down and actually respond to comments, if you can’t dignify questions with a proper response, then you can just not respond. Refraining from speaking on a subject you know less about is better than digging a deeper hole for yourself.

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                    I’m responding to all of your comments.

                    you are asserting that basic facts and interviews are propaganda.

                    I don’t see facts that way.

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              official numbers from China have half a million detainees listed

              Source?

              most estimates agree that the number of uyghur detainees in total is closer to 2 million.

              Source?

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                Xinjiang High people’s protectorate:

                https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/09/14/china-xinjiang-official-figures-reveal-higher-prisoner-count

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                  You seem to have posted the wrong link, that goes to the western NGO, HRW, not the Xinjiang High people’s protectorate

                  I would also like a source on:

                  most estimates agree that the number of uyghur detainees in total is closer to 2 million.

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                    That’s where they got the number, from the high people’s protectorate.

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          Anything’s possible when you make shit up

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