• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    It’d be more accurate if they were digging through homes and hospitals. Of course, that would make Israel choosing to stop kind of a plot hole…

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      24 days ago

      On 13 April, he said, Hamas gunmen tried to force their way into the house of an elderly man, Jamal al-Maznan.

      “They wanted to launch rockets and pipes [a derogatory term used for some of Hamas’ home-made projectiles] from inside his house,” the eyewitness told us.

      “But he refused.”

      The incident soon escalated, with relatives and neighbours all coming to al-Maznan’s defence. The gunmen opened fire, injuring several people, but eventually were driven out.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c175z14r8pro

      Tell Hamas to stop fighting out of homes and hospitals?

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        24 days ago

        Mossad are good at assassinating people on France and the US. But Hamas? Nah, just carpet bomb, shoot at ambulances and crowds of starving children.

        Fuck off.

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          24 days ago

          yeah, I have seen too many videos, made by, and probably posted by, IDF killers themselves where they commit horrible crimes, and nothing is done about it. Like a group walking down a street, nothing is happening, very few people there, and an IDF just shoots a child sitting on a porch. Saw a video, from what looked like security cameras, of a small scuffle that left people injured, when the ambulance showed up, surprise! It’s the IDF, and they started shooting at everyone. This is just two things. I do not deny Hamas commit war crimes, however, this is no defense of what the IDF is doing.

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        18 days ago

        Two wrongs does not make one right. By bringing up someone’s wrongs when his opponent is being held in a trial, you are only defending the accused.

        We are not looking for the worst of these guys. We want to judge them both accordingly and you’re not helping right now.

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          18 days ago

          Two wrongs does not make one right.

          If Hamas wants to fight the IDF without the involvement of Hosptials, Schools, and old peoples homes it is free to fight in the open battlefield, it had plenty of support from Iran, plenty of weapons, plenty of Islamic Jihadi’s who WANT to die for Islam, it was more than capable of doing this but instead it chose to invade and quickly slaughter as many innocent civilians as it could as quickly as it could

          On top of this Hamas was voted in by Palestinians knowing full well what they wanted to do AND had popular support well up until only a few months ago

          Understanding Hamas’s Genocidal Ideology

          A close read of Hamas’s founding documents clearly shows its intentions.

          https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/10/hamas-covenant-israel-attack-war-genocide/675602/

          You can turn around and cry when you’re losing all you want but reality speaks for itself, Palestine wasn’t innocent here, if Ukraine had been busy shooting rockets into Russia, had been kidnapping Russians and stabbing them to death, had co-ordinated with terrorist states like Iran to antagonise the shit out of Russia support for them would be 50/50 at best

          You’re free to walk down the street in outrage at the Taliban’s treatment of Afghani women or the massacres on the Tutisi’s or the massacres across the Sahel or the treatment of Russians who don’t want to join the army, just don’t expect many people to be there

          The citizens of Palestine got what they voted for and so did the Israeli’s

          I hate that 2/3 of my fellow citizens support this, either directly or or tacitly by choosing not to vote.

          https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/47297685

          And so did the Americans

          • ddplf
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            18 days ago

            Fair, leave it for when we’ll be talking about Hamas shittery, I promise you’ll not find many of their apologists at all. But for now - please do just shut the fuck up, because we don’t take kindly to zionists.

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              18 days ago

              leave it for when we’ll be talking about Hamas shittery

              When is that exactly?

              because we don’t take kindly to zionists.

              Just fyi this is the least intimidating threat of all time

              I’ve been on internet forums for 20 years, I am aware that this place is a toxic leftist hellhole, you don’t need to remind me

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                18 days ago

                When is that exactly?

                I don’t know, just look around, might be a bit tough now that Israel has probably started WW3 of late.

                I am aware that this place is a toxic leftist hellhole, you don’t need to remind me

                Oh yeah, must be hard being a zionist enthusiast these days, especially with all these yucky librols all around

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                  18 days ago

                  I don’t know, just look around, might be a bit tough now that Israel has probably started WW3 of late.

                  This is just middle eastern war #9082131

                  You (I assume you’re American) have been there for a very very long time:

                  Die Anstalt - 23.09.2014 ISIS and the Middle east explained (English Subtitles)

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57fMqUl-sng

                  Europe has no intention of stepping up, mainly because they are busy with Russia but because they support what’s going on:

                  Germany’s chancellor defended Israel’s attacks on Iran, saying it was ‘dirty work Israel is doing for all of us’

                  https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-merz-says-israel-doing-dirty-work-for-us-in-iran/live-72939104

                  Funnily enough from that same page:

                  ‘Mixed feelings’ in Iran — journalist Gilda Sahebi

                  They may be hoping that this may be the end of the regime, but although the regime is obviously weak, it is still as repressive as ever.

                  Wow just like Hamas!

                  btw I won’t be participating in any pro-Iran protests I assume you’re already quickly drawing up signs to go to

                  must be hard being a zionist enthusiast these days, especially with all these yucky librols all around

                  Since the Tiktok crowd of virtue signallers moved in yeah, I’m waiting for them to move onto whatever justice cause Gretel Hamburger decides to move on to next

                  Also I am left wing or a liberal as you’d say in America

                  I am a huge proponent of the fight against climate change (I am personally climate positive, you can also support me here, at the moment I am donating to Ukraine but will be back soon), I am also in favour of gender equality, science, education, I am atheist, detest religion, particularly Islam, and I am infuriated you elected Trump a second time, I still cannot believe it

                  But, just like Palestine and Hamas, I won’t be talking about how sorry I feel for you all or attending any anti-Trump protests, not my fault America elected an idiot, and not my fault Hamas are a bunch of genocidal fuckheads that are getting their heads kicked in