Considering Israel and the US are bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities because they have “weapons of mass destruction”, if Iran really did have such weapons, wouldn’t bombing the facilities they’re held in cause them to explode, or cause an evident ripple at least? I may be imagining this in a way cartoonier way than military weapons actually work, but I’m preparing myself for some incredibly annoying debates.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    9·
    8時間前

    Nukes are actually extremely hard to set off. H-bombs even moreso. It requires extremely, extremely precise explosively-driven compression.

    Gun-type firing mechanisms are simpler, but by no means “simple”.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    21·
    1日前

    No they won’t

    Nukes are extremely hard to build and ensure they can explode. You’re talking extremely precisely timed explosives that with even a mili second off, will make your heavy nuke turn into a dud. Throwing a bomb right on top of one will not make it go off.

    What CAN happen is that an explosion like that ruptures the nuke had throws the fissile material around, effectively making your nuke a dirty bomb.

    Also, since they’ve been bombing nuclear facilities I can guarantee you that they have boat loads of very shitty (radioactive) chemicals laying around there which with these bombings now will also be spread around everywhere

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world
      2·
      9時間前

      Excellent response.

      I’m just commenting to say that they’ve determined that there is no rise in radiation around the sites they struck, so either there was no radioactive material stored there, or they didn’t impact the sites as badly as they are claiming. If there was radioactive material, it remained contained. They may still have to rebuild their facilities, but they still have the most important element, the uranium.

  • Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world
    38·
    1日前

    You can explode a nuclear bomb by activating the firing mechanism. This will make the mushroom cloud. If you blow something up NEXT to a nuclear bomb, you can scatter the bomb components and create a dirty bomb, which is just a regular explosion plus SOME radiation.

  • ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish
    601·
    1日前

    1. They are bombing precisely because they haven’t got any weapons. If they had weapons, their nuclear weapons programme wouldn’t be attacked. This is how N Korea gets away with its shit. The attack is because they almost have nuclear weapons, and is intended to ensure the programme doesn’t bear fruit.

    2. Nuclear weapons need a very precisely placed and timed set of shaped explosions within the device in order to ram the material together in such a way as to achieve fission. Nuclear weapons cannot be detonated by exterior explosions, fire, earthquake, hurricane or anything else other than its own detonation system.

    • INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone
      5·
      1日前

      I do wonder though, if they had enough uranium to make a few nukes and it just got all exploded, wouldn’t there still be some fallout/spread over time?

  • db2@lemmy.world
    813·
    1日前

    No. That’s not how it works. It could spread nuclear material though.

    Edit: if it existed where they’re claiming, which it doesn’t.

    • spacecadet@lemm.ee
      184·
      1日前

      Pretty much the only people who claim it doesn’t exist is Iran. The only reason the UN can’t verify is because anytime they do surprise inspections they aren’t allowed into the facilities. No need to bury your refinement facilities 300 feet underground if you are making energy grade nuclear materials.

      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
        172·
        1日前

        No need to bury your refinement facilities 300 feet underground

        Unless your neighbors are crazy enough to try and bomb them.

        • spacecadet@lemm.ee
          1·
          9時間前

          It’s funny how quickly democrats turned on Tulsi saying she was a Russian plant back in 2016 and now that she continues to spew Russian propaganda supporting Iran everyone is acting like she is the bastion of truth.

          • Steve@communick.newsEnglish
            1·
            7時間前

            Is everyone democrats in this observation?
            I’m neither, for the record

            And I neither said, nor acted like, she was telling the truth. Mearly pointing out that Rump is ignoring his own “intelligence”.

        • 4am@lemm.ee
          261·
          1日前

          Wow weird Bibi’s been saying they’re six months away since….1995

  • starlinguk@lemmy.world
    31·
    16時間前

    If there were nukes in those bunkers, they would have moved them as soon as Israel attacked. Sauce: journalist who works in the Middle East.

  • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    50·
    1日前

    A nuclear bomb requires precise explosions delivered by shaped charges to achieve fission. You could strap C4 to the sides of a nuke and set them off, and you probably wouldn’t create a nuclear explosion. It’s a very delicate kind of weapon with very sophisticated engineering.

    • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      25·
      1日前

      And even “precise” would be understating it. Not only is a specific shape of the detonation required, but timing is crucial too. Otherwise you’ll end up with a fizzle.

      But yes, the main concern is nuclear contamination in the target area.

      • Steve@communick.newsEnglish
        151·
        1日前

        Newer devices have been designed and made in the decades since.
        Are cars more sophisticated today then they were in the 1940s?

  • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    1日前

    Nuclear weapons require extremely specific events to successfully detonate, blowing them up with explosives will destroy the mechanisms that make it possible. It will most likely spread the nuclear fuel out though by breaking the shielding and structure that was keeping the radioactive material on the inside.

  • Lasherz@lemmy.world
    181·
    1日前

    Reminder that the US accidentally dropped a nuclear bomb on itself but since it wasn’t armed it didn’t explode.

    But also the most qualified nuclear inspectors on the planet say Iran doesn’t have nukes.