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Because english is just semi random noises
Truer words were never spoken.
Most languages are, but english goes out of its way in being phonetically retarded
My favorite example is the word “yacht”
Ghoti
Gh (f) as in enough,
O (í) as in women,
TI (sh) as in motion
Pronounced: Fish
Make it “Ghoti” with GH as in enough
Thanks for the idea, will do!
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Wait there are people who pronounce women with an i?
Yes? English is only my second language, but the way I hear it:
Woman: Whoman
Women: Wimin or Wimen
The latter is much shorter.
Huh, for me it’s more like wuhmen vs wohman.
The i-pronunciation is commonplace enough that some feminists who want to avoid the word “men” spell “women” as “wimmin”, i.e. the phonetic spelling.
Interesting. I associate the “wimmin” spelling with Terry Pratchett’s writing, where it’s used in the speech of lower/middle-class men, implying casual/uninformed objectification.
Am I the only one who pronounces them both with an I sound
Both with an O here.
Are the two obviously differentiated like that?
In most of the American English accents I’m familiar with, they’re pronounced “WI men” and “WŌ man.”
If I try to sound out using an I in both, the only way they sound different to me is if I move the accent to the final syllable, to mane it stand out. Something like “wi MEN” vs “wi MAN.”
If so, I’d love to hear where you’re from.
From Ohio, and they aren’t differntiated at all I just pronounce them the same
I think the meme is referring to the first vowel.
Your reply helped me understand what on earth was happening. I was like “wimin and wimen?!”
Same. I was so confused by this meme.
Same, i think its a regional thing.
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Wiktionary is good for the dirty details usually. Looks like it’s more complicated than it seems: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/woman#Usage_notes
Accents matter. It sounds like “vho-men” when I say it.
And from there we get to gender neutral term homan, referring to to all you hoes.
Edit: apparently some sources incorrectly write the word as “human”
I think it’s a matter of accent and Dialekt. I pronounce both the same🤷
Also correct if he’s thinking about cute dogs / cats / other animals that have more than 1 female in the group.
English not being my first language, I can relate to that thought 😅
Wait people pronounce them differently. I’ve been saying it the same way.😭
Same here and I’m a native NA English speaker
It was originally wifman and over time mutated to women, the I sound is vestigial of the old spelling.
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for the love of God please someone google what a schwa is before replying
For the love of God are you referring to the first or second vowel? People seem to think OP is talking about the second
I was just shitposting while high. but the real question isn’t “why are they pronounced differently?” but “why are they written the same?”
Woman is an ellison of wīfmann
Man is an abbreviation of wermann
“Mann” meaning “human” and wīf/wer meaning “female/male”
No one asks why “man and men” are pronounced differently, and it’s likely we’d have “wermann / wermen” pronounced “wur-man” and “wier-men” if we’d kept the distinction.
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We probably just nicked the words from different languages.
Wimmen? You’re just saying it wrong.
