• CryptoRoberto@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    Aren’t you supposed to own the card to use a proxy? That’s like the whole meaning of the word right, substituting for something. Not just making a fake.

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      2 years ago

      Proxy doesn’t mean substituting for something you already own, it means something standing in place of or representing something else. In the case of mtg, people use proxy cards to stand in for cards that they don’t want to spend hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of dollars on but want to play with casually

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        2 years ago

        I’ve been to game stores that allowed proxy play as long as you had the original card. (For FnM)

        They usually had the same rule for foreign language cards.

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          Presumably the store wants you to buy cards that you don’t have from them, yeah. But luckily that isn’t a universal rule.

    • Considering the whole CCCG design is lootboxes but for card games, requiring proxy holders to actually own the cards gives legitimacy to WotCs use of dark patterns to take advantage of cognitive biases and whales (people susceptible to gambling-related dark patterns).

      So asserting one has to have an original is to condone the abusive marketing practices used in the game.

      Which, as a sober MtG addict, I do not.

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          2 years ago

          Some people play competitively and will buy only the cards they need off the second hand market.

          Netdeckers do the same thing.

        • There are some communities that are all about deckbuilding and allow participants to just make proxies of anything they don’t have.

          Typically in such games cards like Black Lotus are too far outside the power curve and are pre-disqualified. Most MtG tournaments only allow cards from the current basic set, the last major expansion and whatever minor expansions have been released since. And Black Lotus is no longer in print.

          In fact, the lesser Lotus Petal was restricted then banned for being still outside the power curve.