• TipRing@lemmy.world
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    I kind of excused some of that due to societal PTSD from 9/11 but in retrospect around half of Americans just fucking suck.

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      One could see how bloodthirsty they were as soon as they saw the opportunity to have extrajudicial punishment and the opportunity to kill a lot of brown people.

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        4 months ago

        i was in college in utah. people at there were openly talking in the lunchroom about how excited they were to kill muslims. every time i’d challenge that narrative dozens of people would shout it down. it was disgusting.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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      societal PTSD from 9/11

      I feel 9/11 was less of a “we were struck by the ravages of war” and more of a “how dare they shoot back” event. If it was like the bombing of London by the Nazis, that makes most people reluctant to go to war instead of making war popular.

      I mean, who looks at 9/11 and says “we want more of this”? Apparently most Americans?

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        It was revenge for making Americans feel vulnerable. Two oceans and the world’s strongest military made Americans feel safe from the world (and the effects of U.S. policies toward it). Even national humiliations like losing the Vietnam War were things that happened “out there.” Domestic resistance to the invasion of Iraq often took the form of “Why Iraq when we should be going after the people responsible for 9/11 instead?” Resistance to the invasion of Afghanistan was much more muted for this reason. It was only later that everyone was always against both wars.

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      4 months ago

      1/4 to 1/3 at most. Remember most eligible voters don’t vote.

      EDIT: it’s also worth noting that many can’t vote. Like voting day not being a public holiday and they cant get off work, mail-in not being available, public transport not being free on voting day, or simply being purged from voting rolls.