I’m pretty chill and down to earth, feel like there’s a lot of hate towards us.

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    How do you reconcile current conservative approaches to the poor (reducing/removing any benefits, sending unhoused people on busses to other States, etc.) with the teachings of Jesus in the testament? There is a clear disconnect between these two sets of ideals.

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    Gods, if I wanted to be at an AMA where the host refuses to answer questions, I’d re-read the Woody Harrelson one on Reddit.

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    How do you feel about women making decisions about their own reproductive health?

    If you don’t think women should be allowed to have abortions, how do you reconcile that with the goal of “not ramming your religion down other people’s throats”?

    If you do think women should be allowed to have abortions, are you really a Christian conservative?

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      I do feel that it’s a woman’s body and her choice however I do feel that going as far as having an abortion on demand at the moment up until birth is outrageous.

      I PERSONALLY feel, that, (I’m gunna be Blunt here) guys should pull the fuck out. I think we need to be holding are men accountable just as much on this issue because the woman didn’t get her self pregnant. I just feel like guys get away Scott free on this and it isn’t right.

      Honestly I think abortion altogether is really sad despite what the woman does But ultimately it should really be up to her. Yes there’s a lot of support for single mothers and stuff like that that the Republican Party talks about but what I don’t like is, well where are they actually going to be when the child is born?

      Like let’s get real guys. Most women who go the single mother route are in poverty.

      Good question. Idk, maybe I’m a 2023 type of conservative Christian. I believe that God forgives and understands. And that life isn’t like it was in 1700 BC

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        Fair answer. There’s no denying that men should have a lot of (and a lot more) accountability in pregnancy, but that’s kind of beside the point in the debate around abortion rights.

        I don’t think most people would defend the right to an abortion once the fetus becomes viable, nor do I think many women get abortions so late. I don’t have the stats on that, but I’m pretty sure that’s all just extreme scare-mongering from the anti-abortion lobby. They’re trying to prevent any abortion and use extremely rare/non-existent scenarios to push that agenda.

        There is also a huge range of scenarios under which a women might want an abortion. I have a personal example. A very close family member of mine had an abortion when she and her husband were actively trying to have a second child. The fetus was not growing and multiple doctors confirmed that the pregnancy was going to result in a miscarriage at some point, but it was unclear when that would happen. Instead of waiting potentially months for a surprise miscarriage to happen, she decided to have an at-home abortion using mifepristone. It was purely out of bodily autonomy. Now conservative Christians are trying to take that right away from her and thousands of women in the same position.

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          I guess my point is that the big debate is whether women should be able to get an abortion at all or not. I believe conservative Christian leaders are resolute in stating that any abortion is anti-Christian and anti-conservative, so you might be less of one that you think.

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    How can you be comfortable identifying as a conservative Christian, seeing what conservative Christians do to LGBTQ+ people?

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      I think everyone is different honestly. I don’t think just because someone is a conservative (like myself) that they incorporate the ‘old school’ Christian beliefs. Such as being against gays.

      It’s 2023 and ppl are understanding how times have changed.

      I myself, and several others, don’t care if gays get married or have children and so forth. We’re not against that.

      I also don’t think gay ppl are bad, they are normal ppl. And if you think about it, Jesus wants you to love everyone and not have a heart full of hate.

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        But if you’re voting republican, you are voting for people who do believe in those things. They are also working to punish them every chance they get.

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          I think there are some old schoolers in the Republican Party yes, but I don’t think all Republicans stand for that. Just as I am different. Yea im Christian but I don’t go to church every Sunday.

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            Doesn’t matter what you stand for, if you vote for the antichrist.

            You just seem to want to jerk yourself off that you “aren’t like other Xtians” more than you want to admit why you support the worst people.

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        As a self-identifying conservative Christian you must be aware that almost all antagonism towards LGBTQ+ people comes from your churches, your leaders, and your peers.

        And not just gay people. Trans people are even more in the “culture war” crosshairs, and are just as important a part of the queer community.

        Do you disagree with your church and your leaders about this? If so, how can you continue to self-identify as a conservative Christian, knowing what your identification supports?

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        “The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church…I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk.” Boebert

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          Honestly I really don’t know. Taking it from face value, I guess it should be separate bc not everyone believes the same things

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            You rely seem to rely on ignorance to maintain your status as a lib pickme.

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    Posting history of OP clearly shows them to be a troll who gets off on creating posts with controversial headlines. Please stop feeding it (and also please stop believing everything you read on the internet).

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    OP, are you and PrettyBlackDress the same person?

    Assuming so, from what you’ve said in this thread, it seems from what you’ve said that you’re at least pro-choice, pro-lgbtq+, and pro-separation-of-church-and-state.

    So, my question is, "in what sense exactly are you “conservative”?

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      They identify as conservative because all they want is to fit in with the local “in group” and actively refuse to see if they actually maintain anything that could be referred to as a “standard”

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      Not op. Before 2016 republicans could be broken down as being fiscally conservative, socially conservative, or both. The person you described above is a fiscal conservative. Republicans are now more fascist then conservative.

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        They drove out the blue-dog republicans years before.

        It is nice that there is a specific year, though, that we can point at for when the moderates lost plausible deniability when it comes to being enablers of the far right.

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          Oyea that’s just the year they went full mask off. I think it became first noticable when some people legitimately believed Obama was muslim.

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            Well, the time that moderates should have started actively questioning if “Are the dems and pinkos right?” if nothing else.

            But for the lefties, it was pretty much Reagan that shouted it out that they were anti-worker.

            If firing the air traffic controllers, and making cocaine a race based drug (drawing attention to crack being a ‘black drug’) and the general hatred towards workers movements didn’t have them questioning what side they were on then…

            Well, I’m just not surprised that those people are confused about why suddenly they are suddenly being compared to the old German American Bund.

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    Can you elaborate on the ways in which you are “conservative?” That’s a broad term that means different things to different people and in different contexts.

    Financially conservative: you avoid debt and speculative investments? Religiously conservative: you favor old-fashioned Latin rite Catholicism rather than post-Vatican II Catholicism or more modern Protestant traditions? Socially conservative: you support strict criminal punishments, heavy restrictions on booze/weed/gambling, and censorship of foul language or violence in media? Or maybe you don’t fall neatly into any of those “conservative” stereotypes?

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      Ah you beat me to it and worded it better. Op has to be financially and religious conservative based on their responses.

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    closeted liberal, seems to be the consensus opinion. there’s a lot of social pressure to adopt an identity even if it doesn’t reflect your actual values.

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    How do you justify enabling the worst impulses of Conservatives?

    Does fitting in with the wives of your husbands work friends get tiring?

    Does it get tiring making excuses for the transphobia of the people you like hanging out with?

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    YOU don’t ram your religion down other people’s throats.

    What the hell are you doing to keep your family in Christ from doing the same?

    Are you whining about being lumped in with them? Or, are you trying to get them to smarten up?

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    How bad are the fleas from the dogs you lay down with?

    Edit: He said AMA and there aren’t that many comments. Why didn’t he respond?

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    This is just silly. There are no “good” Christians. Belief in magic alone is enough to put Christians at odds against a modern society, but tack on the bigotry and hate… c’mon.