Email obtained by Guardian says Pfizer was told approval may not be granted, meaning Moderna may have to fill gap
  • aramis87@fedia.io
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    3 days ago

    They’re saying kids can’t get vaccinated unless they have an underlying condition themselves. One issue they’re not considering is that children are a plague vector in spreading illness.

    As parent, I could exempt my immunocompromised kid from getting vaccinated simply because I don’t “believe” on vaccines, thus killing him. But as an immunocompromised parent, I couldn’t have my kid get a vaccine to prevent him accidentally killing me. This is not the pro-life party, folks.

    • D_C@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      I would suggest that not only are they considering kids as plague vectors, but they are also hoping for and planning on it.
      Just like the measle parties of the 60s and 70s etc.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 days ago

      This is a solid point for vaccination against measles and other such illnesses.

      The covid vaccine reduced the time people remained infectious but not the viral load.

      By all means get vaccinated, but don’t go near someone immunocompromised without a mask if you think you’ve been exposed to covid.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
      2·
      2 days ago

      Trump said that Stephen 'PeeWee Himmler" Miller want to reduce the American population to 100 million, and look like him. That’s about a 70% reduction in population. So how are they going to do it?

      One way is to have terrible health care, so more people die. Another is to have wars, and a draft. That has the advantage of killing all the young men, leaving the lonely young women remaining for the wealthy old men, and the rich nepo-babies who avoided the draft. It also has the advantage of steering trillions of taxpayer money to a few enormous corporations in the military-industrial complex.

  • 93maddie94@lemmy.zip
    14·
    3 days ago

    My three year old got her first round of Covid vaccines as soon as she was able to and then boosters ever since. My husband and I have both gotten flu and Covid vaccines each year. I guess we’ll have to see if there’s a different way to get her protected this fall…

      • RedPostItNote@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        3 days ago

        Repeat covid infections without vaccine protection are going to absolutely destroy our population. It is beyond stupid we aren’t smarter about this.

            • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
              1·
              5 hours ago

              Better than I expected, tbh, but these aren’t very compelling conclusions. There are several major weaknesses in the study, and it’s only one among many that reached different conclusions. They acknowledge all of this and conclude that more study is needed. What i get from it is that there might be (may have been) some detriment to society from covid, and vaccines could possibly reduce that detriment slightly. With the benefit being pretty weak at this point in the trajectory of covid, it’s not surprising that the fda isn’t renewing the emergency use approval. It certainly doesn’t warrant the hand wringing from the guy I originally responded to.

              • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                2 hours ago

                They was just one example.

                Let’s not forget that we are using hospital resources for Covid patients which would otherwise be available or not required at all. There is a social cost there.

                When people are sick with Covid, it affects their economic productivity. Not that we should really care, but sick workers make less money for the billionaires.

                The journal is one peer reviewed source that shows there is congnitive decline that correlates strongly with the severity of a Covid infection. Reducing the number of infections, and reducing the severity (both things vaccines can do very well) reducing the collective cognitive impact to the population and the knock-on effects of those cognitive issues.

      • 93maddie94@lemmy.zip
        11·
        3 days ago

        Yes, but I work in an elementary school and she goes to preschool full time so it’s not bad to be cautious

  • blattrules@lemmy.worldEnglish
    201·
    3 days ago

    The people running our country don’t have any idea what the fuck they’re doing.

    • Azal@pawb.socialEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      They 100% know what they’re doing.

      You’re just assuming them “knowing what they’re doing” is going to benefit you.

      Gonna be real hard to organize the average person when you’re wondering if the person next to you lives in a different reality where vaccines cause autism.

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
    12·
    3 days ago

    Is it just because the Project 2025 authoritarian criminals are in control, or is there an actual issue with the vaccine?

    I’m not really getting an answer to that from the article, for now I have to assume the former.

    • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      17·
      3 days ago

      One of the goals of Project 2025 is to sow distrust in established government programs. Think about your building codes. You don’t think a lot about them unless you are building something. You may not give a fuck as to why outlets have to be at least a foot off the floor (or whatever it is) but let’s say some asshole comes around and says “Electricity doesn’t exist man! It’s just the Holy Spirit!”

      And then say that asshole is put in charge of electrical codes for your state.

      Are you going to trust any change he makes? Are you going to trust any revisions that are made in the future, even if they return back to what they were before?

      There is so much doubt in the system now that I am even worried about vaccine safety. Because you know ivermectin is about to be sold as some voodoo cure for cancer.

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      There are some very slight issues with the mRNA vaccines, but it’s not a health concern. The may be slightly less efficacious than a vaccine containing a weakend or inactive coronavirus because the mRNA vaccines work by having your cells produce a very specific protein on part of the virus instead of the whole outer shell (capsid) of the virus, which provides more proteins that your immune system can recognize. This could lead to a narrower “immunity envelope” as the virus evolves over time.

      I’ve had about 8 mRNA shots at this point. If there was a major issue, I’d probably know about it by now.

      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
        2·
        2 days ago

        I’ve had about 8 mRNA shots at this point. If there was a major issue, I’d probably know about it by now.

        I’ve had 6 as well, but I was more worried about the effect on under 5 year olds :-)

        As I said though, as long as I hear nothing more concrete I have to assume the FDA is simply compromised.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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        2 days ago

        mRNA vaccines are being used to in increasingly successful trials against cancer. There was a recent announcement that they were able to use mRNA technologies to customize a treatment to fight a patient’s specific cancer, which could be used to cure many types of cancer. The discovery is so big, that they think they could use it to create actual vaccines against some cancers.

        They want to ban the most promising cancer research.

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          Honestly, despite the shortcomings, I legitimately think that mRNA vaccines technology will be one of the biggest medical innovations in my lifetime.

              • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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                1 day ago

                Except for many decades, certainly since WWII, much of that research was done by American companies, and now all that research investment may be lost. Sure foreign companies have an enormous opportunity here, but it will take significant time to replace all that American research.

                And what happens to major studies that are already underway, and will now be cancelled because the funding is lost? Years of research down the drain, as they start over somewhere else.

                These people are so profoundly stupid that they think if they cancel mRNA research dollars, it ends this evil medical reaearch. It won’t. Foreign companies WILL pick it up, but it delays the final results by a large amount, probably years. That’s years that lifesaving therapies will be denied to people who are suffering and dying…

                …All because we have a psychotic junkie with a brain parasite from eating road kill, whose entire medical knowledge is comprised of Internet conspiracy theories and his own imagination, making medical decisions for not only our current citizens, but all future citizens as well.

                JFC, America is really, really screwed.

    • jacksilver@lemmy.world
      5·
      3 days ago

      Talks of rolling back vaccines is directly tied to Maha and Republicans, just like cutting funding to mrna vaccines.

      The best bet though would be to look at other nations to see what they’re doing and keep in mind that RFK Jr pushes anti-science medical policy.

    • blargle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      The only legislation that the right does that is ‘rational’ involves the removal of regulations on buisiness and the upward transfer of of wealth.

      Everything else they do is A: Performative: designed to reinforce the narrative of their alternate-reality propaganda channels (If what Fox News has been talking about is really going on, these are the actions a responsible government would take in response.) B. Provoke a hostile reaction from the left, so that they can lie to the people in their propaganda bubble about why the left doesn’t want this; proving that they’re dangerous enemies.

      Or, some combination of A and B. It’s not just present-day Republicans who operate this way. It’s every right wing party around the world throughout history. They use lies to get into power and then use their power to make their lies the only truth.

    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 days ago

      That’s the scariest bit, you can’t know. When it’s over whether its in 4 or 40 years all science from the regime will be useless trash

  • ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world
    7·
    3 days ago

    What are some good Canadian and/or Mexican pharmacies near the border I can make a road trip out of? Asking for, uh, for a friend.