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But if trump is in the list, just keep it secret
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
But for real… Everyone and their mother knows that the prick is on there.
Yeah, but we’re not in a cult.
True and this needs to be broken down so people understand broadly what’s going on.
They do not care that we don’t share their level of idolatry. They don’t care enough about principles and values. Have we EVER scored points for pointing out hypocrisy? Have we EVER scored a victory for being smarter and more consistent? Every time we score a victory against fascism and cults it’s because they harm themselves in some way and go too far with some trend or meme or gag until it gets them in trouble with liberals who don’t want the boat rocked.
They don’t rethink their entire framework for viewing the world when you shoot back at them that you don’t care if “your guy” is also on the epstein list. It doesn’t even register with them, it’s like if you scored a goal against the opposing team and the coach came up to you and said something non-sequitur like “Chest of kumquats, handover lugnut toe socks.”
In fact, you want to really fuck with them? Act HORRIFIED that Clinton might also get indicted. Play their stupid WWE game, but then, challenge them, dare them to get the list revealed under the guise of proving them wrong and that your precious Bill Clinton would NEVER lower himself to associating with such degeneracy. Hold back the laughter, I promise it will have a much more profound effect than acting “better” than them.
We have to start changing the game people.
Ignorance only absolves you of moral culpability so long as you are not actively creating that ignorance by preventing the release or creation of any information that might challenge it. The moment you do that you become morally culpable for every single bad thing that you are actively trying not to learn abour.
There are definitely several Mr. Rogers-esque figures in them.
Here’s an actual example, or at least one that’s close: Richard Stallman.
He’s not likely implicated personally, but Marvin Minsky (a pioneer AI researcher at MIT) is, and Stallman said some pretty terrible things in support of him. Stallman was removed as head of the FSF because of it.
Without any evidence of anything beyond saying bad things in support of Minsky, I don’t think it needs to go beyond that. But if he were fully implicated, I would 100% still support releasing the Epstein Files.
Never ask a trumper why they dont want the Epstein files released,
Big bird why they never got cookie monster any help
Or, a Christian what Jesus was doing with that partially dressed young boy in the garden of gethsemane and why Peter, James and John had to keep watch for him, from a distance.
What? I’ve never heard about that one.
Mark 14:51, 52. The actual ancient Greek is quite clear about the practically naked young (pre-pubescent being the closest comparative term) boy. They all would’ve been conversing in ancient Greek and the earliest records of the bible are in ancient Greek.
Here’s another thing to think about. How old do you reckon the disciples were? Imagine, if you will, that our kneejerk answer comes from Renaissance era paintings and those alone and you need to aim the number significantly south of that. They were not older than Jesus.
They were speaking Anatolian and all of the gospels were written down at least decades after the events being described.
Where did you get that idea from?
Greek was the lingua franka of the Eastern med and his first language would’ve been aramaic. So, why would he ignore his first and second languages, to speak Turkish to a Jewish and roman audience?
The right wants what’s best for their own party and will only complain about something if it hurts their image. The left wants what’s best for everyone, even if it hurts their party.
The DNC and RNC, though, are basically the same right-leaning party and don’t give a shit about their constituents. Which is why we’re in this mess in America in the first place. The DNC won’t stand up for what’s right when the RNC pulls a BS move because it hurts their own political gains too. We don’t actually have a left party in America, so most American ideals are completely unrepresented.
That’s why the DNC is fighting against Zohran Mamdani in the New York mayoral election. He’s an actual left candidate, not the centrist-right figurehead they wanted on the Democrat ticket (Andrew Cuomo). So when Cuomo lost the primary for that Democrat ticket, he chose to continue running as an independent, to split the vote and ruin Mamdani’s chance of winning. Because the DNC would rather have a Republican in office than an actual left candidate.
Which is why we say, “RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!” There are going to be Democrats AND Republicans on the list. We don’t care. Punish them all. Actually drain the swamp. We have no party loyalty because we don’t have an honorable party to represent us.
And they’ll use this. The same way they used it against Al Franken, who did nothing wrong.
By the time they release the files, it’ll have exactly the names they want it to have. It’ll be up to forensic teams to try to find the changes and the truth within those files.
The funny thing is that Cuomo and Adams are probably siphoning more votes from Sliwa than from Mamdani. Hell, almost 1/4 of Fox News watchers are planning on voting for Mamdani. Decent chance he gets an outright majority.
Fuck it. I’m just voting for you in 2028.
See, this is why I lean left. I’m not far left or alt left, I have some right leaning tendencies too, and I’m not gonna get into that because that’s neither here nor there, but all told I do lean left. And the reason is, generally speaking people on the left have their morals too (and it’s odd that the right says we don’t) and if someone on our side, even if we think he’s a saint (how people see Keanu Reeves, because he doesn’t play villains and they never played Cyberpunk, I guess) or maybe the best chance of beating an alt-right candidate in a high stakes election… we will bring him down, with facts. We hold ours accountable. The right? They say it’s fine for them to do bad things but for poor people? Stiff penalties because they gotta appear tough on crime… as long as it’s poor, dark skinned, or LGBTQ+ people doing the crime. If it’s them and theirs it’s fine. Never forget, they nominated and elected a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a rioter, a traitor… and oh yes, a pedophile. They had plenty of cleaner guys they could have ran but they didn’t.
Now, there’s a rule in law, or a rule of thumb, I’m not sure if it has a name. It basically says if you destroy or hide evidence, that evidence is whatever we say it is. I don’t think it’s an actual law, it’s more of a philosophy of sorts. So everyone opposed to releasing the Epstein files, we can assume that either they are in them, or someone they owe favors to is, and it’s worse than we think. Like, I’m inclined to think maybe Trump fooled around with some 15-16 year old girls who could pass for 18-20. Lot of rich people probably do. Grass green, water wet, news at six, etc. He knows his base doesn’t judge him for the stuff we know he’s done. So what’s he afraid of?
Here’s my theory: we all know Trump is in the Epstein files. It’s a sure bet. I think that Trump doesn’t care about his name being smeared. How much worse could his reputation get now? Nah, I think the GOP has a short list of younger men (guys in their 40s and 50s, say) who could carry the torch for the next 8 years. I don’t doubt Trump would try for a third term if he had the health and youth for it. He has neither. I honestly think we need to stop worrying about his third term and start worrying about the two terms his successor is going for. Anyway, I think one or more of these successors are in the files, and they probably messed with some obviously underage and very young looking girls. Like 13 but can pass for 10, young. Underdeveloped, partly malnourished, that kind of thing. And these guys, after another 4 years of Trump, are going to come up and say they’re going to fix things. They’re going to fight hard for the middle and some of the left, but they’re going to be just as bad. And I think Trump is trying to protect these guys more so than himself.
What is “alt left”?
I was just wondering the same thing. I have a feeling this is not a Bernie Sanders centrist lol.
Umm, people like Keanu Reeves because he’s been repeatedly shown to be a kind man to everyone he meets, not because he doesn’t play villains. Still don’t care if he’s in the list, it’s gotta get out, but you gotta understand these things properly.
Like, I’m inclined to think maybe Trump fooled around with some 15-16 year old girls who could pass for 18-20.
That’s incredibly generous. I don’t get all the “pass for” stuff. They were screwing 12-16 year olds who looked their age.
The power of blackmail, the original purpose of the files, goes out the window if they’re released. It’s not just Trump trying to save his own skin. If all that blackmail is mass dumped the curators of that blackmail won’t have anything left to pull strings with. They can’t have that because their global power structure will collapse and they need that flow of cash, power and weapons right now more than ever. They can’t just give up multiple decades of blackmail because some American plebs are angry. They’ll sacrifice Trump at the chopping block to appease the public when they’re good and ready. Until then we can all pretty much accept it’s not happening.
Release the Trump/Epstein files
The right will circle the wagons when one of them violates both rule and moral. The left demands justice regardless.
There is no both sides.
Therefore you should vote left if you can find a candidate or party that is left of center, needn’t be an extreme leftist.
Exactly. Back in November, it was damage control. We only needed to vote for Not Trump. Yet ninety some-odd million people chose not to- we only needed four million to cover the void….
This was avoidable.
What if you’re on it though?
Then I should get what’s coming to me
Hell yeah! I’d vote for you, unless you’re in the Epstein files, in which case fuck off!
That’s so nice of you… thinking a lemmy user has enough money to even be elegible to appear on it…
Get the fuck away from me, Rod Serling! You already turned me into Hitler and took my sight!
If Jesus were on the list, who do you think introduced him to Epstein? The pope or a cardinal? Some mega church pastor? Some errant thought in the middle of a prayer?
As an aside, if prayers work like Bruce almighty, god could be advertised to 24/7.
YOU’RE STANDING ON MY NECK! 🎶
Well, Artie’s definitely on the list.
I just KNOW Beyonce and Jay-Z are on that list right next to Diddy… Illuminati=Epstein list
