Vim doesn’t care if it’s running in Linux or Windows or macOS
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I honestly don’t know. Every OS has its goods & bads. But generally I think it just comes down to whatever’s available. Personally, I use:
Windows on my work laptop (because that’s what they gave me),
MacOS on my personal laptop (because I like it),
Ubuntu on my home automation / media server (because it was free).Similar here but in reverse
- macOSX on my work laptop
- windows n my home laptop
- raspbian and Ubuntu on my home servers
- Rocky and Amazon Linux on my work servers
- but realistically most of my non-work activity is on iOS
No spyware, much better performance and wear on your hardware. Actual control over your devices. The downside is, linux is complicated and a pain to learn how to use or maintain. Windows is easy to use but so is a vtech laptop which is essentiallly the trade off. It used to be that windows was easy to use and open as a platform, but microsoft is doing everything in its power to ruin windows. The modern developers also really suck and the modern codebase is buggy as hell. The OS kills your harddisks and ssds, even before the new broekn update because they are constantly scanning your files to send signitures to palantir or whatever. They are removing basic functionality and a few years from now I imagine you wont even be allowed to close or open apps, like with Android. It will just be full of ads and spyware and you will have to pay a subscription to use it or something. People have been jumping ship because at this point continuing to use windows is just going to make your life painful in the future.
What you’re used to is easy, what you don’t know is hard. People are creatures of habit and don’t like change.
Nothing new here.linux is complicated
windows is easy
Speak for yourself there mate lol
Linux is objectivly hard to use. Sure if you use it everyday for years and years and memorize all the commands and stuff, you can probably figure out most stuff without searching, but as someone who has only been using Linux for a few years, and is a mere amature C++ programmer, installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process, that requires a snack and a nap afterwards, with a maybe 50% success rate. Just adding a script to autorun at boot was something that took me a few hours and probably dozens of lines of shell. Im moving to debian soon though, which should maybe help since i dont have to deal with containers and and overlay filesystem and all that nonsense. Linux really needs to lean into UI development, simplicity, and intutive design. I still struggle to find files in linux without links. KDE has come a long way in recent years. I can now do things like scale my screen size without hours of research, shell hacking, and autoruns. Linux will never become mainstream unless the typical user can do nearly everything without ever touching the shell. That has always been the thing that has held Linux back besides game compatability. Now that valve is finally creating a more normie friendly version of linux with game compatability and a sort of complete UI. It might actually overtake windows. Its still a massive pain in the butt compared to windows- double click an exe or msi to install your software. If i need to find a file on Windows, I don’t even need a search function. I can just find it in less then a minute. Linux definitly has some big flaws and bad design decisions. Modern womdows isnoretty terrible compared to 7 and before but it is still much easier to use for almost every task.
I find linux to usually be logical. In windows everything appears to be completely random.
It has a lot to do with familiarity, but design choices also play a part.Windows is objectively hard to use, and makes it harder to use with every release. I wasn’t saying Linux is particularly easy (though depending on the distro I’d say it’s definitely easier than Windows), but more that feeling like windows is easy to use is just being used to it.
From what I remember Mint is probably the most brain dead easy Distros you could use. Almost everything has a GUI if I remember. Its mainly a mix of what Distro/DE you use and how much you want to tinker.
Elementary and Ubuntu as well these days. Dead simple.
Good to know, i havnt researched mint much, but im trying to find the most simple system so i can learn linux on a deep level. Basically the temple OS or Dos or windows XP of linux. Not simple as in UI but in file system and stuff. Debian lets me install KDE which i like so the UI side is fine. Its a bit trickier to understand overlay file systems and stuff.
Maybe half of the software I use is in the discover store. I for whatever reason end up using quite a bit of niche software. I have improved a good bit with installing from scripts and stuff. Sometimes i need to install stuff into the OS tree to get it to work and use propeitary binaries. Installing java, AI dev tools, certian versions of Python to get software to work or compile Its annoying, but im moving to debian which should help with many of these things if i can manage to get it installed.
If you want to learn about Linux on a deeper level Mint is probably not the best choice for it, since it aims at providing a Distros for non tech literate users. For this goal I would recommend Arch Linux, since the installation an maintaining teaches you quite a bit. Main Problem is, that Arch is sometimes quite unstable. If you like to suffer to learn you can also try out Gentoo or NixOS or crea[e your own Linux with Linux from scratch.
installing anything or even doing basic tasks is often a multi hour process
pacman -S [software]That was easy.
Alternatively yay install [software] or flatpak install [software]
Or even any of the multitude of GUI stores that exist, one of which will probably come pre-installed on your system if you’re using a just-works distro.
i have handed fedora kionite to a non-techie who was super happy with it, cuz it looks like windows, but most of the things you need, you can safely get via discover.
Some things i can get from discover but many things i use i have to manulally install. I just dont want to deal with containers and ostree and stuff. Maybe in the future i will.
I find Linux far easier to use than anything else because most decent distros come with all the software I want, or it is trivial to install, and it’s all free.
Most of that software is available for Apple or Windows, but it’s a PITA to install. Giant waste of time. And money, of course. And of you install Windows, you gotta manually disable all the shit advertising.
All of that without needing the command line, even.
MacOS software is extremely easy to install. Drag package icon from mounted drive (with auto popup) to Applications.
It’s even easier with Brew: have terminal window open, type
brew install librewolf& if MacOS complains,xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreWolf.app(for example to get a nice bland browser without corporate spyware). Every now and then,brew upgrade librewolf.I didn’t even want to bring up brew, which is also great. I know it’s cool to hate on MacOS, but for both “getting shit done” and mostly “just working” (drivers, etc) I think MacOS is the best intersection of those needs. The hardware is also easily the best available.
It’s supposedly easier to breath with your nose angled that high up in the air.
Yes, but the air is also thinner up here
Oh, now this is a shitpost.
Linux does not care if the user is still in the vim age or has already progressed to good editors.
Exactly, like neovim for example.
Ok I lied. I don’t actually use vim, I use neovim. But I don’t daily drive Linux or windows, and neovim does kinda unify my local editing vs ssh experience. So only 50% a shitpost.
I mean, I use vim when I have to, but I have a pretty crazy neovim config I prefer. Also shoutout to stow for helping me sync my neovim config across systems.
…like?
Thought about downvoting, then realized it is top-tier.
It’s free and runs stuff good.
I’m glad I noticed what community this was posted in before I responded.
Vim does care, but it doesn’t want to hurt your feelings.
Vi also cares, but not about feelings.
What does tmux think?
Tmux is feelings and empathy rolled into the terminal multiplexer we never knew we needed.
No, that’s Zellij
Multiplexing
Extra work
After this last windows 10 update, now windows hangs on cryptographic service. There’s no fix for this shit and no hope to fixing my computer… My HDD…but I restart boot my default OS Linux on its own SSD from Grub. If I want to go suffer I reboot into the piece of shit windows system. So that’s the appeal of Linux.
It’s free. What is vim?
An Emacs clone.
Which is a nano clone.
A bad emacs clone
it’s like visual studio bro
Vi improved
That when I eventually get sound working again I can feel good about fixing something. One month now without sound and having to use Windows. Will probably have to reinstall because I’ve tried everything that could find on the internet to fix it without success.
Everyone ends up going back to windows for the better user experience anyway. Which is why Linux is an acronym for Linux Is Not UX (user experience).
Yes, windows is definitely the king of user experience, with no other os I had the privilege of being able to max out my ram in idle while having Microsoft and google spy on my every move… the ui is another thing, who doesn’t love to have an inconsistent ui, you have to pay for to customise it :3
I know I’m a weirdo, but I prefer the terminal, that’s why I made the switch to Linux from windows 17 years ago.
