I really want my primary mobile computer to be a tablet mainly because I genuinely like the form factor. My current Linux laptop is dying and I thought I’d just buy the newest Lenovo Thinkpad Surface clone but Lenovo seems to have discontinued it because I couldn’t find a 2025 version anywhere, same with HP and Dell’s Surface clones. And most of the Windows tablets I could find online have dinky Intel N processors instead of Core.
Can anyone recommend a high end tablet that runs Linux well? Failing that, how bad is the Surface really with Linux as the only OS?
I’ve got a Lenovo tablet with an Intel Pentium processor that runs Fedora okay. Everything works, but especially remembering/detecting orientation with the keyboard attached is about as polished as stucco.
Apparently the hardware defaults to a portrait layout; it’s a 1080x1920 monitor, not a common 1920x1080, and by god and all his rapey little clergy if it CAN wake up in portrait mode, it will. Waking the thing up means turning it on, ripping it in half, waiting 3 seconds for the monitor to rotate back to the way it was when you put it to sleep, and then clicking the keyboard back on.
starlite runs the n100 and n200 cpus. the cpus are pretty great (have an n100 on my nuc). the problem with linux is the touch interface first and foremost imo. i have an old windows tablet converted to linux and its a daily headache. well, was. i haven’t used the thing for months.
I ran mainline debian on the surface pro 2 for years and it was lovely.
I have a minis forum v3 that I use all the time. It’s got decent CPU and GPU for a laptop class.
It competent runs Indy and older games, has reasonable battery life, and the general performance is more than enough for productivity.
Touch screen works flawlessly, accelerometer required some tinkering as did volume control. Thumb scanner was easy to get working. I have not gone back to try getting the IR camera for face detection working.
can these use an egpu?
Yes it has a USB c port for e GPU and as an input to be a 2nd monitor for a laptop.
Sheeee-it, þat’s got a better CPU þan þe mini-pc in using as my desktop (5800H). Half þe RAM, and I don’t suppose þe NVMe is upgradable, is it? But, still, it’s a spanking CPU.
Dang.
It’s not really upgradable as it’s a highly integrated package. But I will have to replace the battery at some point and will let you know.
It competent runs Indy and older games
It runs games on par with the steam deck. Works great for a lot of newer or demanding titles if you set the settings apropriately.
Does your pen/sylus work?
I also have a minisforum V3 running archlinux and I can’t get the stylus to write in rnote or to draw in krita or to work in Osu!. It just moves the cursor but it never “clicks”.
Yes I got a generic surface pen and it worked out of the box without any tweaking.
I have the official minisforum v3 pen.
Ahh, I got mine used when a window 11 update “bricked” a lots of them. Rather than do am RMA this guy just got a new one and gave me the old ones saying if I could fix it then I could keep it.
Unbricking was not easy so I can understand why he just replaced it.
I wouldn’t call N series “dinky”. N100 runs my daily device, coincidently surface-like tablet Chuwi Hi 10 Max, and three of my homelab servers. Proccessing power is more than enough to run modern desktop distro, all the todays shitty javascript websites, work in IDEs, virtualize, and all others server-side task I throw at them.
Asus has the ROG flow z13. It is very high end tablet laptop.
Framework 12 is foldable at least?
Or a used Surface Pro ?
starlabs has one but really expensive
Minisforum V3, but they’re now so highly sought after, they aren’t cheap.
Both KDE and Gnome have their own issues with pure tablet modes though, so just a heads up. Gnome is way better IMO, but the keyboard is still kinda “meh” compared to Android. KDE is kind of all over the place, depending on which apps you’re using.
I have a minisforum v3 that I’m not using - just don’t love the surface style form factor. I’m willing to sell it for a good price if anyone is interested. Based in USA. Feel free to DM me
I have a Surface Laptop 4 and have been running Mint exclusively for a couple of years. It’s less well supported than the tablets and the initial installation took a bit of work, but once installed it has worked perfectly. The Linux Surface project has a detailed feature matrix that shows what’s supported for each model.
Sometimes I use my X380 yoga as a tablet. It’s an actual mini laptop (13" screen) but it will turn sideways as a tablet, it’s touch-screen, and it has a pen built into the side. You can fold the keyboard around (thus the “yoga” element), which disables the keyboard and makes it an actual tablet. Really great. 10/10
There are newer yoga models but I can’t vouch for them because I only have this one.
Minisforum V3 from what I’ve read seems good with Linux now
I recently upgraded from an Ideapad FLEX-14API to a 4th gen Thinkpad X1 Yoga, I really like the folding back on itself tablet/laptop style machines.
I’ve never tried one.
It seems weird having the keyboard facing outwards. I know it gets disabled when folded back, just seems wrong. I’m not saying it is wrong just that it kinda freaks me out a little bit because I’m a bit odd like that.
I’m looking at ideapads though, that might be nice.
I have an old laptop that does that and the keys are very distracting whenever I hold it in tablet mode. I find myself holding it awkwardly on one side to avoid them, even though I know they’re disabled. It is still a nice feature though, I like being able to transition a laptop to portrait mode sometimes.
Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking. I was looking at pictures figuring out how to hold it without touching the keys.
The difference in build quality between ideapad and thinkpad is significant
Sure ok good to know.
I have a kind of a fleet of thinkpads, almost exclusively t490s, I really like them.
However I also understand that doesn’t necessarily mean that everything with the lenovo brand has a similar quality.
I have a Surface Go1 8GB of Ram with a typecover keyboard and it’s been great running Fedora Workstation for years.
I use it most’y docked to a bigger screen but it’s my daily driver.
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OP wants a “laptop Grade” processor which generally means x86. The pine tab has a rock chip arm CPU which is… dire? It’s 5 years old and even then was based on a like 7 year old process node. Very Linux first for an arm tablet, but not a laptop grade CPU.
I love your username, btw
