Wayland all the way, 120 hz Freesync monitor with 60 hz second monitor works perfectly on KDE Plasma with AMD. No fussing about with X11 configs or worrying about if the compositor is active or not, it just works.
I can’t seem to get Freesync working on KDE Wayland with a single monitor (NixOS with an AMD R9 380). Any tips? I’m using vrrTest to test, and my TV reports when Freesync is enabled.
Are you using HDMI? Try display port. (Its an old post but maybe related) https://www.reddit.com/r/swaywm/comments/w3ug4q/enabling_amds_freesync_on_sway/
Yeah. My TV is HDMI-only and doesn’t have any DP inputs.
The open source amd driver doesn’t support freesync with HDMI afaik
I’m not having any issue in XFCE on x11/xorg with a 164Hz main screen @2560x1400, and a 60Hz second screen set vertically @1080x1920. Just using the display manager config provided by XFCE.
Don’t bother choosing. Use whatever the distro gives you until you actually have a reason to switch
I use arch btw. My distro doesn’t give me anything. I was on x11. Wanted to experiment a bit and now I’m configuring hyprland. Going well for me so far
Wayland is the future. X11’s future is dead. Unfortunately there are still some growing pains. Xwayland mostly works but I have issues with it sometimes.
If you don’t know install a distro and use what comes with it by default and only worry about digging into the plumbing if something doesn’t work for you.
Ideally you let your distro worry about plumbing.
I think Mint is nice if you don’t need bleeding edge stuff. You can use Cinnamon which runs x11 but will eventually support Wayland.
I’ve heard good things about suse which has a rolling release option and supports gnome and KDE under Wayland.
Arch of course is a thing if you don’t mind a manual transmission as it were.
Personally I might pick Mint to get started.
Wayland, because it’s faster, more stable, handles multi-monitor better, you can have animations while playing a game, no tearing, no fcking around window managers/compositors or shit, lower memory usage and 1:1 touchpad gestures
you have the same with X11… i have all these feats with my intel and AMD GPU.
So why Wayland then? Better architecture/codebase and more manpower. And I think it supports multi-gpu better, not sure as nvidia doesn’t play well with Wayland, it would be astonish that Optimus works any better.
Try running multiple monitors with different resolutions or gaming… Just in general (no seriously, people who think that gaming on X11 is better than wayland are fcking insane… No tearing, having to disable compositor to get more than 20fps, just works) in X, bet you’ll have a great time. And yes, Nvidia is the only reason why imo anyone should still be using X (if they don’t wanna use gnome)
Wayland. No screen tearing and it doubled my battery life.
hmm interested in the battery life comment. is this a thing? if I could push an extra 20 minutes or so I’d switch
is this a thing?
Honestly, I have no clue. With DWM I had like 3-4 hrs at max and now I am using DWL for 6-8 hrs.
What is also noticeable, is that closing the lid puts the laptop actually into sleep. Because with DWM it continued using the battery as if it was actually used.
I am not advanced user enough to tell what exactly caused this.
I’ve also noticed a dramatic improvement in battery life with wayland. Been using it since F21 it’s very efficient imo
No screen tearing out of the box is a huge plus for wayland. Makes recommending GNU/Linux much easier
Wayland. Because it’s X12. Not a spiritual successor to X11, but an implementation of a subset of X12 by the X11 people. The fact that X11 even works for desktop is a miracle, and only possible due to everyone deploying ass-backwards workarounds to make it work. Now the only changes to Xorg are related to Xwayland.
Wayland because X is owned by Elon Musk
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He just copied the logo that’s copied from a unicode symbol! ;)
Wayland for better multimonitor support, scaling, and tear-free rendering.
Wayland first, but have both installed so you can fall back to X11 if you need to. If you do have to go back check wayland again after every few updates. X is dying a long-needed death. It started off has a hack decades ago and has just been held together with duct tape ever since. There are some not so great things in wayland with some apps, sometimes issues with context menus or screen recording for example, but they’re getting fixed over time.
I do kind of miss x forwarding over SSH. It was really convenient, there might be something for wayland but I haven’t looked for a while.
I tried Waypipe over SSH and it worked. It was long ago, it might be even better now, I don’t know. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/emersion/waypipe
I havent had to use something like that in a while but I’ll have to check that out
X11. I heard NVIDIA is buggy on Wayland. Also, I’ve never really had much problems with X11 and my system setup.
I found that Wayland works better in my case: XPS 17 with Nvidia on Ubuntu lts. Less stuttering and overall smoother feeling. The only issue is that the screen doesn’t always turns on after suspend, but this is healed with ctrl+f1.
Both have issues, just that X11 has old issues that rarely someone is workin on, while Wayland has new ones and people are fixing them. So Wayland for me, thank you.
X11 for X11Forwarding over SSH.
Wayland because I want something actively maintained and progressive.
I don’t think that’s a feature many people actually needed, something like accessability is peobably a better argument but I agree with the fundamental statment
Agree, network transparency is a super power user feature.
And frankly VNC is good enough.
I just found it sad that a really powerful feature was dismissed as “no-one actually wants this” (yes I do) and “just use VNC” (I shouldn’t have to) and “just plug a monitor in” (well yeah).
I would have hoped that is have been a protocol extension or something rather than outright dismissed as “doing it wrong”.
I think thee main reason for some of Waylands feature cuts next to security and legacy stuff no one needs anymore is the unmaintainable giant X11 became but I agree, some sort of reliable way to extend the protocol directly would be cool to have eventually, usually that stuff shouldn’t really be in the protocol itself ether tho!
Oh hell no. Vnc isn’t application specific, dynamically resizable, and requires adding that to remote hosts when ssh and x is already there. You know nothing, John Snow.
Good enough, just means barely adequate, it doesn’t actually mean good.
But yeah. I like my X11.
Don’t tell me I don’t need it, I use it every day to run apps not yet available on arm from another system. I’ve used it for years at work, as well. Just because it’s for something other than fricking gamer’s doesn’t mean it is not needed.
I never claimed you or others don’t need it, just that it’s a featore most people don’t need… Furthermore almost anyone who claims to need it would be totally fine with a implementation outside of the display protocol (E.g. VNC) too so the amount of people who actually need it is extremly small.
No, Vnc is not a solution. It is an entire remote screen instead of individual remote apps. Claiming Vnc is a suitable replacement is just ignorance of the workflow.
If that’s not enough for your workflow you probably want Waypipe, maybe just Google before you rage for no reason next time! https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mstoeckl/waypipe/
Extra crap as workarounds instead of fixing the real problem, which is Wayland. No thank you.
The actual ptoblem is that X11 is impossible to maintain which is why X.org moved to Wayland… I guess some people don’t want to understand jack shit!
X11, because it’s stable.
Wayland. Touchscreen support and gestures. No scaling issues. Better smoothness.
And don’t forget Crash-Resilient Wayland Compositing that keep applications alive even tho the “compositor” crash, so it does restart without any data loss and the lockscreen protocol, because on xorg if the lockscreen crash then you view the desktop and you have the device unlocked!
Wayland. Touchscreen support and gestures. No scaling issues. Better smoothness.
touchscreen and gestures are managed by libinput/evdev which are independant and works with X11, using it currently on my Yoga C340.
Good point. But I think it would be difficult to configure this bundle within GNOME/KDE. And it’s not necessary. Almost everything works fine under Wayland right now.
