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    See, there’s a big problem. Medival/Legal Dramas are boring, samey and unimaginative. But at least there isn’t a 50% chance to get random incest/pedophile/sexist scenes pushed in your face out of nowhere and without any significance to the plot.

    I love animes, but the amount of time I put into filtering out disgusting fan service is too damn high and also stopping me from recommending it to most of my friends. We need more anime like Frieren, Dungeon Meshi and One Piece pre timeskip and less Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer!

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      A few recommendations with that in mind (Boy does that one restriction really just nuke the list! Common Japan!):

      1. Spice and Wolf (2008 series, I have no clue if the 2024 series is good)

      2. Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

      3. Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End

      4. Gate: And Thus the JSDF Fought There

      5. Crest of the Stars

      (Roughly in that order, too)

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      This so much, I’m tired of shonen and kawai nonsense, most of the mainstream Anime plots and characters are generic, and I’m too old to related to 14 year old protagonists, I’ll take something like Arcane over another Anime any day

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    Not all anime is good, a lot is straight up shit. Not all things that aren’t anime are shit some are quite good.

    Edit: some recommendations for good live action TV that’s neither a police or medical procedural:

    • I May Destroy You - an analysis of consent and modern dating

    • The Sopranos - one of the first shows to really smash the episodic format apart with its sprawling, long running narrative

    • The Wire - while it does involve some elements of the police procedural format, it’s really a novel about a decaying society in TV form

    • Freaks and Geeks - spawned it’s own sub-genre, possibly the most influential teen drama ever

    • Deadwood - framed as a western but it’s really about how you build a society, crying shame it got cancelled before the conclusion but some of the best characters and dialogue ever written

    • Battlestar Galactica (2003) - the perfect series to capture the paranoia and changes in society following 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan

    • Chernobyl - just incredible

    • Band of Brothers (honourable mention to The Pacific) - suffers a little from some American Exceptionalism but an incredible look at the effects of war on ordinary people

    • The Deuce - an unflinchingly honest look at the sex and porn industry in 70s and 80s New York

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      You’ll never convince OP of that. In fact, I’m shocked that several rabid amine fans haven’t shouted you down already

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        …because it’s true? That’s why the really good anime is seen as really good

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    4 seconds into first anime, high pitched squeal coming from female lead

    10 minutes in, realize the main character is 15, girl phobic, and being put in charge of serious military equipment nobody has the right to touch until they undergo a year of training and are willing to follow orders; starts wondering if the person giving the child multi-billion dollar military equipment is more incompetent than the main character…it’s really a close call

    15 minutes in, bitches like the child they are for the rest of the episode

    episode ends

    I love anime, but boy are some of the tropes really annoying and is a massive part of why so many people just turn it off shortly after it starts.

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      TIL why I can’t get into anime but didn’t know it.

      Bit OP isn’t wrong about medical, legal, and police procedurals.

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        The put some damn fan service into Law and Order: SVU and I might start watching!

        Am I right fellas!?

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          Yeah I know it’s a wide range of art, and there is likely stuff I would like. It just hasn’t tickled my brain yet.

          Meanwhile, I did love Arcane, but I also know calling that anime is likely to start a religious war ;-)

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            ‘Chainsaw man’ is really good for ‘a boy and his dog whos actually not a dog but kind of the anthropic personification of how people think about chainsaws but also still kind of a dog, the faustian pact they make, and the secret shadowy government organization that uses him as a child soldier’

            ‘Death note’ ‘psycho pass’ or ‘ghost in the shell: stand alone complex’ if you want very anime but still need to be watching a cop show.

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                They’re not entirely copaganda; two are cyberpunk, one is… The protagonist of ‘death note’ very much has 100% cop brain, but it’s kind of a breaking-bad-esque exploration of 'how this guy could possibly be that much of a piece of shit?’ but i remember it being fun.

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    Here’s my problem with anime: I keep getting burnt on recommendations.

    Anime fans do not share my distaste for sexualized child-coded characters. Which would be tolerable if they would even acknowledge the CONCEPT.

    It’s a dice toss whether the anime is a Cowboy Bebop or something with loli side characters halfway through season 2, and I’m just rarely up for spending the time to do that research for a recommendation.

    And “Achshually, these are just drawings not real people”, “umm, she’s really a 1000 year old dragon who just chooses/got stuck with a small human body” fuckery just tires me.

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      Solo Leveling - early 20s male protag, action sci-fi, no romance subplots atm

      The Faraway Paladin- Fantasy adventure, found family

      Claymore-women/monster hybrids fighting bigger monsters, only one male mc and he’s absent for over half the episodes

      That’s what I can come up with that doesn’t have chibi, loli, or romance. They’re all on crunchyroll with good English dubs

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      As you type this, you’re suddenly transported to a fantasy world where all anime is imaginative and original! Also the world is full of buxom maidens ready to serve your every will.

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            Eh. I didn’t watch this one, but my mom and sister did and from the short clips I’ve seen, it’s ok. Not an outstanding reverse harem like how Ouran HS Host Club or Wallflower was, but funny enough. Most of the guys aren’t giving fembiy to me anyway.

            There’s just a lack of reverse harem anime in general, and the ones that do exist are either so bad they’re funny, or just boring/bad. Then there’s the ones that are like reverse harem lite, and pretend like there’s multiple romance options when it’s really just one dude that’s obviously gonna get with the girl from day one.

            God, an actual Femboy + Male Harem + Boys Love show would take me out and I’d never stop thinking about it until I died, so maybe it’s a good thing I don’t have this fixation to brood over to myself.

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      Sturgeon’s Law states that 90% of everything is shit. This applies to anime just as much as it applies to every other medium.

      Just watch the 10% that isn’t shit.

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    I’m in neither camp. I don’t watch much anime, and I hate these detective/murder solving shows. There’s plenty of third options to choose from here as well. Lots of good stuff.

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    Don’t worry, this new NCIS spinoff is different! It take place in… throws dart at a map …Oswego.

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      • Akagi
      • The Apothecary Diaries
      • A Silent Voice
      • Azumanga Daioh
      • Bocchi the Rock!
      • Cowboy Bebop
      • Delicious in Dungeon
      • Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End
      • Kaguya-sama: Love is War
      • Kaiji
      • Little Witch Academia
      • Spy x Family
      • Steins;Gate
      • Takopi’s Original Sin
      • Violet Evergarden
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        • Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
        • Casshern Sins
        • Monster
        • Ergo Proxy
        • Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
        • Haibane Renmai
        • xxxHolic & Tsubasa Chronicles
        • Gintama
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        Apothecary Diaries, Delicious, and Frieren are my faves on this list. And of course Cowboy Bebop is a classic.

        Also, I will never stop loving Akira. The animation, direction, the score, just chef’s kiss. They don’t make 'em like this anymore.

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          Akira really is something special. Or maybe something different… Only Frieren begins to approach that level, Akira is physiologically challenging beyond just the mind bending of something like guran lagan

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        Lot of solid choices, I’ve got 3 new ones to check out. Much appreciated, the ones I recognize are good so I’ll be giving the new entries a fair shot