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Get this! Mike Johnson is now claiming — with no evidence whatsoever — that Donald Trump once served as an FBI informant to help dismantle sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network. Johnson told reporters Trump “was an FBI informant in an effort to take Epstein down.”

I’M NOT JOKING!!! 🤣🤣

  • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works
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    Sadly I have already seen some posts praising him for his “service”

    MAGA should realize they’ve got a real 007 on their hands

    0 Intel Collected

    0 Kids Saved

    7 Children Raped

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    So you’re telling me Trump DID know about all the child-raping all along? And never said anything about it this whole time in the years after he had Epstein killed? The man who takes credit for EVERYTHING never once piped up to say “I turned Epstein in to the FBI”?

    That’s not the slam dunk you seem to think it is, Johnson.

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      Yes, that is what is means. Trump was chummy with Epstein for many years, knew about the child trafficking and took part in it. Epstein “stole” a young girl from Trump’s resort and Trump got mad that Epstein took her out from under him. So, when Epstein wanted to buy a mansion, Trump used a Russian oligarch’s money to outbid him. And Epstein was so pissed that he threatened to expose Trump’s ties to Russia, and as a response, Trump turned Epstein in to the FBI. Alex Acosta was persuaded to give Epstein a sweetheart deal where he was not given Federal charges and got out on work release for up to 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, during his massively shortened sentence. And when Trump and Epstein later made up, Trump returned the favor to Acosta by giving him the Secretary of Labor position in his cabinet. So yeah, Trump “informing on Epstein to the FBI” definitely does not turn him into some kind of hero.

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        Excellent summary. What’s your opinion om the possibility epstein was a honey pot? When confronted about the deal during his confirmation hearings, Acosta claimed that he was told epstein “belonged to intelligence” and that the matter was “above his pay grade.” It could be a convenient and unverifiable excuse, but the fact that the FBI doubtless has mountains of evidence recovered from two raids on epstein and basically zero prosecution has arisen from it, I find it likely to be true.

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          In my opinion, we know enough from the victims of this sex ring to have pretty high confidence that Epstein was taking part in abusive sexual acts even in his own home, alone with the victims. So, if Epstein was acting as some kind of honey pot, it was because he was already doing these things and the government officials were either bribed or threatened, or under pressure from bribed and threatened officials not to go after a wealthy well-connected man like Epstein. And it is plausible they invented a honey pot cover so he could continue to get away with it. But even that I find unlikely, since if there was some kind of honey pot mechanism for this within the FBI, you would expect that some more significant portion of the powerful people we know are implicated would have had some kind of case levied against them. This sounds less like a well-intentioned plan to prosecute crime, and more like yet another glimpse over the crumbling facade of democracy. The more evidence we gather, the more we see how things really work. Rules are enforced often enough on middle-class people to give the impression that things are fair. And those people who believe in the fairness hold the fabric of society together and keep people from getting angry about the truth. That we are cattle and subject to the whims of a ruling class who take anything and anyone they want, whenever they want, and there are no mechanisms left in the system that have any ability to stop them anymore. There is no honey pot - not in any way that would have prevented the worst things from happening. If anything, it enabled further harm because of how broken the system is when it comes to what rich people are allowed to do. We can see the fence now. So, instead of spending too much energy arguing about whether we are fenced in or fenced out, we should start putting more of our energy into figuring out how to gain collective control of the gate.

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            The only way youre going to get a person to honey pot people with child sex is to get some one who is OK with or enjoys child sex. There isn’t some righteous person out there saying, “Im a moral and just person but sure Ill abuse children if it helps the government.”

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      It’s almost as if they’re trying to set up the claim that if he did fuck any kids, it was to protect them from the creeps that wanted to fuck them.
      Sociopaths.

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    This is literally an official admission of his guilt. FBI informants do NOT have qualified immunity. They probably brought him in for questioning once.

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    And how many times did he sample the product, just to be sure they were really underage?

    Vote with lead.

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    This can easily be discarded for just the fact that trump would have bragged about this a long time ago if true.

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      The problem is this is the exact cope that magats have been using since the flight logs were released, maybe even earlier.

      “Trump good guy so if he was close with epstein it was OBVIOUSLY so he could take down the pedo ring!”

      This will cause cognitive dissonance in approximately none of them.

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        He’s a great agent. It was real savy of trump to buy a teen pageant and then publicly brag about molesting pageant girls. Great undercover work, that’d convince anyone he’s a pedophile.

        (/s)

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    This is gonna cause a resurgence of Qanon. And even his “normal” base will lap it up, because now it’s not coming from 4chan, but rather his own speaker.

    This administration is the most insane government I’ve ever seen in a ‘developed’ nation, at any time in the recorded history of ‘developed’ nations. There isn’t even a close second, and it’s somehow worse than Trump’s first term.

    Looking forward to his third term, I’m sure it’ll be great fun.

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      He tweeted something last week with a Q in it trying to stir them up again. Mostly to try and throw the deep-seeded maga nuts off of the Epstein files. They are 100% not going to let that go - this is the closest they’ll ever get in their lives to being correct about a cabal of pedos running things.

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        I’m pretty sure Q was a “deep state” psyop all along. The whole Jan 6 thing was planned, and I think the perfunctory and relatively toothless response by the government was intentional so that those traitors could later be recruited in their gestapo.

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          Deep state? No one in the “Deep State” wanted any of that. The “Deep State” is all the bureaucrats that tell political appointees “no, we can’t because of this law from the 70’s that says it’s illegal…” All the federal employees getting laid off in DC are part of that “Deep State” - you really think someone that processes HR vouchers for AmeriCorps is also running psyops in their spare time?

          The original Q stuff was most likely a 4Chan/8Kun prank that just spiraled into pure insanity and had no reason to slow down or stop. It’s fairly well accepted that Ron Watkins and his dad started it or were close to those who did, and once it built up momentum, just ran with it. It’s not hard to get people, especially conspiracy-prone folks to see patterns in anything once you prime them. It’s literally the basis of how Trump got elected, you give them enough info for the pareidolia to fill in the gaps for them. How many people of that same caliber fly flags where they make a well-known fat gun-hater into a ripped guy holding a gun? Same mechanic. These people are also very prone to getting scammed as well due to the same cognitive shortcoming. Someone gives them dogshit info on an obvious scam and if the right virtue signaling is there, their bias-confirming lizard brain will do anything to belong and donate money or buy Trump-branded BS like the “Trump Card” scam.

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          It was definitely a test of their power. Notice the instigators did not face any justice, only the foot soldiers. They also proved the inability to prevent disaster in “the pipe bomb incident” that went unsolved. That did not make anyone in Congress sleep any lighter. It’s also likely why we don’t see much push back. Trump is the fucking mob, and you’ll face the mobs justice if you step out of line.

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    Donald Trump was an FBI Informant for a man who did NO WRONG and also does NOT Appear in the Epstein Files despite being REALLY Close to Epstein to bring him down and had SEX with CHILDREN to bring down Epstein who Continued bringing children to CHILD RAPE ISLAND for DECADES after Trump started Investigating him!

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    This is a Qanon thing my MIL was spouting years ago. Trump was “secretly there to save the children” is not new.

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      I’m sure he only walked into the dressing rooms to watch the children change so that he could assess their risk levels of being trafficked, right?

      These people and their cognitive dissonance.

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    Don’t you become an informant when they catch you and offer you the deal; You get to walk free for the crime you committed, but have to risk your life spying on your fellow criminals for the fuzz?

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      Trump would 100% take that deal if it was offered to him, without a moments hesitation. He’d also fuck it up within about 30 seconds. Which is why I know this isn’t real.