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  • Great question!

    First, that the definition of content that is considered “adult” doesn’t necessarily mean every forum qualifies. Privacyguides.org likely would not. A car forum likely would not. Facebook must comply because links shared can be “harmful” anywhere on the platform. The fractured nature of Web 1.0 is a feature now, not a bug.

    Second, that proxy measures can reasonably work for forums with smart admins. If I register with an email I can show has been in use since 2007, some forums are willing to accept that as enough evidence. I saw an article somewhere I can’t find right now that someone was accepting 5 year old tickets to a concert or something that was an 18+ event. Typically age verification laws are focused on large Web 2.0 platforms and can include lower cost, lower threshold options for sites with a very small number of users.

    Finally, that it might simply take a longer time for anyone to care or even notice some smaller sites. By the time someone comes calling, policies might have already changed several times and reasonable exemptions now mean no work is needed.








  • Here’s where they say the models are Mistral, OpenHands, and OLMO are the models. The blog post isn’t the only documentation they have.

    Apparently no one knows how LLMs work. I’ll give credit where it’s due, that Proton seems to have a setup that is as good as it can possibly get for anyone who can’t run an LLM locally. Since no one seems to know what that means either, “locally” means you have to run a LLM on your machine.

    All LLMs - all of them without exception - process tokens as cleartext. There is no LLM anywhere that can process encrypted tokens. So this is a limitation of the fundamental architecture.

    What Proton seems to have is TLS encryption of your text your write > the LLM context window, where Proton has sort of “removed their own access” from that step. The LLM processes and responds, all with the TLS tunnel to you as the only in/out. Proton servers process the tokens, and once the conversation is done, it all gets flushed. It’s not even that hard of a thing to set up conceptually. But it does rely on the same level of trust in Proton as any of their other services. But hey, if they keep passing security audits, that’s reasonable trust to have.

    My only gripe is that Mistral doesn’t get the level of investment and development that Big 6 AI companies get, so it’s like GPT3.5 level on a good day. Well, and my second gripe is that a “basic, but slightly better” tier isn’t added in for paid users, and that it’s a standalone add-on.


  • It’s not, though. Some users want this kind of stuff. Proton has users who just want to DeGoogle and aren’t nutters that want to buy groceries with Monero.

    Plus, this article is straight up misinformation. Proton lists out the LLM models they use: Mistral, OpenHands, and OLMO. Which are open source.

    The article reads like AI slop, and seems to have no idea how LLMs actually work. There are no LLMs that process encrypted tokens. The article makes it sound like an impossible thing that doesn’t exist is a reasonable expectation.