I tried zen but it was annoying me.

It changed my settings every time it updated, so I abandoned that.

went back to trusty old Librewolf.

Librewolf has vertical tabs and looks identical to me.

about:preferences

BROWSER LAYOUT

Horizontal tabs
Display at top of browser

Vertical tabs
Display on the side, in the sidebar

Show sidebar
Quickly access bookmarks, tabs from your phone, AI chatbots, and more without leaving your main view.

Isnt that the same as floorp and zen browser.

Consider if a theme could accomplish what you want: It seems like they all use firefox under the hood, and if all you want is appearance, you shouldn’t need to change your entire browser. Keeping in mind that a smaller fingerprinting pool is less anonymous, if you care about that.

I haven’t actually used any other than librewolf though, so if switching provides any features you care about, go for it.

Dude gleebal browser is so much better man wtf ):<

I generally tend to stay with browsers I know. It’s tedious enough hardening Firefox and getting everything down to a note. I do have Librefox onboard but I rarely use it.

I genuinely thought this was satire, never heard of either and have only just started with LibreWolf… now I have more options to research!

Here I am thinking what’s a floorp and mixing it up with the plumbus.

I think that it’s your browser, your choice.

I use Firefox, and don’t worry about a thing. :-) Not even what you like for a browser.

To consider: sticking with the main browsers helps you resist fingerprinting

Both are using Firefox base

I like to test browsers through www.browseraudit.com although im not sure how reliable the results are. I tend to stick with Browsers that score high 390’s / 400.

In case you are wondering, Floorp scored a 400, while Zen scored a 397. Not bad at all

Weird that both taskbar icons for both browsers are the same? (Yellow circle with white “W” on it). Both were downloaded for linux, zipped.

I’ve switched from Librewolf to Zen for a few months now, and it’s been great so far. There is all the fun features like the essentials tab, and the tab groups. Also Zen Mods is super cool. It is like a repo of css mods for zen.

There was some controversy about the debug thing, but as others pointed out, it happened during the alpha phase, when the development team is still new to the project.

For hardening, you can use Arkenfox, Betterfox, or Phoenix. All of these work on Zen (I’ve tried them all). Librewolf is based on Arkenfox, so if you use it, you’ll get most of Librewolf’s privacy features. I recommend Arkenfox. Personally, I believe Betterfox is a balance take between privacy and usability, while Phoenix is the most extreme option. Arkenfox offers stronger privacy features than Betterfox but is not as extreme as Phoenix.

Edits: also don’t forget uBlock :)

You trying to coax me from librewolfs maturity for new browsers?

I use Floorp, haven’t tried Zen though. I remember some drama of Floorp temporarily closing it’s source but I believe it’s open source now. I like it for the side bar it comes with, it’s pretty useful for multitasking but I guess you could just open two windows and place them side by side

Zen left dev mode on in prod so everyone using it was exposed and the dev played it down iirc

I tried zen and then someone told me something concerning I forgot about by now so I switched back. Floorp I’ve never even heard of, but I’d have a hard time taking anything called that seriously.

Zen video playback was awful for me, but I like almost everything else about it.