Virtually all of your examples involve US hegemony instigating and winning, the same group doing the current stuff. Why does a war ending count as becoming less evil if it’s always by the same instigator and they keep winning, jumping from conflict to conflict? Have you considered that the evil keeps winning and suppressing the good through compliance or murder?

What is we compare the most intense 25 years of the 20th to the current 25 and label the instigators?

Did not expect someone to nab my reply

There was no revenge in my story, only the violence you already have condoned.

As if slide rules didn’t prerot their brains /j

My claims? My claim is, as I said before, is that violence should not be ruled out as a final option. That’s it. I never said we were at that point. You’re desperate to paint me as a violent person because I am willing to defend people from killers who control who they get to kill.

To entertain you, I volunteer in my communities in person and develop support systems within them. Violence now is not the conversation.

Sure! I used to be nonviolent, then I saw that the other side still chose violence. Then I tried to reason, and they still chose violence. Then I pled, and they still chose violence. Then I watched my friends and family die. When I asked for help, I was smugly told they were nonviolent and watched me die with a smile on their faces, thinking that because they only allowed it to happen and didn’t feel the blood on their own skin they sidestepped their own morals safely.

Yes please sit back and do nothing that’s what they want. Your take is an illogical loop and no matter how much your take is yours, it’s still a bad take. I hope you’re around in a few years and get to see that 4 year point, and that you feel your nonviolence only approach is still fine as they kill and enslave thousands.

I need to clean it to a concerning degree as well or risk being fined.

Also, where do those burned plastic fumes go after being burned also matter and I’m not confident they’re not just being sent straight back to my lungs.

You haven’t been. You’re not nonviolence if you support doing nothing when senseless violence occurs. It’s not 1776, no one said it was, and to use that as your reference point shows you have ignored all change since then.

Nonviolence is not “dont hurt me” it’s about trying to bring an end to violence.

Sorry we already tried nothing I said new ideas.

And of course you’re pro-violence if your idea of nonviolence is “let them kill.”

People have been killed for 200 years trying.

Then give me a few we haven’t tried because I’ve been searching

Did you miss the last resort part of my comment? No one is saying it’s the only way, you’re saying it’s not a way whatsoever and I’m saying it’s a way and one that should be avoided.

People are already being exposed to violence in the system. It’s already happening. Why are you for that?

The capitalist will sell you the rope for his own noose or something?

After dealing with acute lead poisoning of >300× in a US capitol, I believe it.

It’s propaganda to think that violence isnt a last resort. I hope you never in a position to need self-defense because you seem to not believe in it.

Why would I assume otherwise? I would never call another group of people “animals,” that’s dehumanizing. Why would I assume someone who is nonviolence is okay with equating other people to animals, is kindness and respect not a core belief of nonviolence?

Quick to call others smug and arrogant because you can’t have a dialogue.

I hope you break out of your cognitive dissonance chamber one day.

In the mood? From what I see rn, that would simply be grounds for a landwar.

You just claimed all violence is wrong, in reply to why people are choosing “nonviolence” which is a liberal propagandized view because the entire system is predicated on very active violence, just not in front of the consumers.

Also odd to call all animals wrong for “choosing” violence, I’m not certain how you define it, but colloquially violence is either inherently part of how nature works or a choice that is within some human defined morality that cannot be blanket applied to other animals.

Don’t kid yourself, you’re pro-violence if you’re okay with how the system is now.

You’re not looking at the choices they made before and during the don’t be evil era. With all tech, if they didn’t create it, someone else would’ve because it’s not that super smart people “created” a thing but that the community created and made available the tools required to “invent” said technology.