Because if you falsely accuse me of a crime and im looking at jail time, we have a problem that is going to turn violent very fast. Im a firm believer in persuing rapists. It is in no way paradoxical for me to say that is would be unfair for my innocence should be presumptive.
I can only assume that people advocating for the blanket belief of woman victims must all be women, because how are you possibly going to put yourself in a situation where half of the people around you can simoly say three words and your entire life is over. As it stands now, any woman who walks into my buisness could accuse me of rape and i would lose my family, my job, and likely my house. Literally half of the people i interact with could end my life.
Its funny, theres a parallel with that last sentence that id be lacking to not bring up. But when when its in the context of half of the people you meet being able to physically end your life, thats a problem.
The only thing people are advocating for here is eliminating the double standard. Everyone should be presumed innocent in any type of crime, because at least for me im not serving time for a crime i didnt commit without taking everyone else involved down.
Edit: yeah, so as expected, i had a couple decent discussions with people. As soon as they realised they were wrong, they got offended and started name calling, completely dropping any attempt at pretending they stand for something other than hate. Pretty fuckin cringe
The point is that unjustly accused people have the right to violent uphold their rights against persecution. If you accept false accusations as an eventuality, you accept violent retribution as well.
Feel free to explain why correctly accused people wouldn’t do the same thing.
Also feel free to explain how due process only applies to other people because you’re allowed to be violent if the law even thinks of responding to an accusation, false or otherwise, like it would for any other crime.
Not quite, in fact you just revealed your issue. I never stated that, youre making your own assumptions, and they are quite revealing. If they have any form of evidence, then they’re not unjustly accusing. They’re offered the same protections as a reasonable person, because they are. Unlike you.
What do you mean thats not true? It’s one hundred percent true, because im not rich and powerful. Im a regular guy and have no protections against that sort of manipulation whatsoever. And thats exactly what everyone in this thread has been getting at.
Also holy fuck just pointing out that i have no protections against that is sexist? Bro it is literally sexist for me to claim innocence. Wow.
I have been a supporter of women, and of both genders, likely longer than you have been alive. I will continue to support women with or without you, but quite frankly we dont need your bullshit polluting the message. Its shit like your “all men are evil” bullshit that is the reason for so many of our current issues.
Because if you falsely accuse me of a crime and im looking at jail time, we have a problem that is going to turn violent very fast. Im a firm believer in persuing rapists. It is in no way paradoxical for me to say that is would be unfair for my innocence should be presumptive.
I can only assume that people advocating for the blanket belief of woman victims must all be women, because how are you possibly going to put yourself in a situation where half of the people around you can simoly say three words and your entire life is over. As it stands now, any woman who walks into my buisness could accuse me of rape and i would lose my family, my job, and likely my house. Literally half of the people i interact with could end my life.
Its funny, theres a parallel with that last sentence that id be lacking to not bring up. But when when its in the context of half of the people you meet being able to physically end your life, thats a problem.
The only thing people are advocating for here is eliminating the double standard. Everyone should be presumed innocent in any type of crime, because at least for me im not serving time for a crime i didnt commit without taking everyone else involved down.
Edit: yeah, so as expected, i had a couple decent discussions with people. As soon as they realised they were wrong, they got offended and started name calling, completely dropping any attempt at pretending they stand for something other than hate. Pretty fuckin cringe
Wow so tuff, this guy absolutely pulverized that strawman
The point is that unjustly accused people have the right to violent uphold their rights against persecution. If you accept false accusations as an eventuality, you accept violent retribution as well.
Feel free to explain why correctly accused people wouldn’t do the same thing.
Also feel free to explain how due process only applies to other people because you’re allowed to be violent if the law even thinks of responding to an accusation, false or otherwise, like it would for any other crime.
It applies differently because reasonable people presume innocence and will therefore support those accised without evidence.
LMAO
Love the casual implication that women can’t possibly be asking for that evidence to taken and treated seriously.
Not quite, in fact you just revealed your issue. I never stated that, youre making your own assumptions, and they are quite revealing. If they have any form of evidence, then they’re not unjustly accusing. They’re offered the same protections as a reasonable person, because they are. Unlike you.
Okay buddy Redditor
God I love self revealing assumptions. Keep em coming, id love to know more about you.
This is simply not true (not to mention extremely sexist) and it’s exactly what the post is getting at.
What do you mean thats not true? It’s one hundred percent true, because im not rich and powerful. Im a regular guy and have no protections against that sort of manipulation whatsoever. And thats exactly what everyone in this thread has been getting at.
Also holy fuck just pointing out that i have no protections against that is sexist? Bro it is literally sexist for me to claim innocence. Wow.
No, I’m calling you sexist because you are sexist.
Name calling. Cool. Fuck you.
I have been a supporter of women, and of both genders, likely longer than you have been alive. I will continue to support women with or without you, but quite frankly we dont need your bullshit polluting the message. Its shit like your “all men are evil” bullshit that is the reason for so many of our current issues.
That’s a lot of words to say “I have internalized my sexism”.
And thats a lot of words to say that you’re a troll, thats the nature of words.
Also illiterate. You literally havent read anything ive said. I’m done here, i don’t engage with bigots.
Good bye, sexist!