• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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      Yep. Just like in Ocarina of Time, Gerudo Village in Breath of the Wild is off limits to men. But instead of sneaking/fighting your way in like in Ocarina of Time, you disguise yourself as a woman and then they let you right in.

      Nintendo also knew full well what they were doing with femboy Link given the number of NPCs in the game who flirt with him, both while disguised and otherwise.

    • Xylight (Photon dev)@lemmy.xylight.dev
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      Gerudo town is a town where only women are allowed. In botw, they don’t know link is the savior of the world or whatever (long explanation), but he has to sneak in for another reason. He finds someone who sells clothes that make him look like a woman so he can sneak in.

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    god i wish you weren’t required to harass a trans woman to get this scene

    god i wish they’d made gerudo town way less uncomfortably terfy in totk

    sighs a lot

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      @00dani

      I figured the whole reason they don’t allow men is because every male Gerudo turned out to be fucking Ganon. And allowing femme presenting outsiders was their version of “you clearly identify as female, come on in.”

      I actually thought that them letting in the Goron was because the Goron identified as female! “You are made of literally rock come to life, but if you identify as female, that’s good enough for us.”

      I guess it’s hard for me to feel like they’re trans exclusionary when there are literally no men born, except one possible man in Kara Kara, and again, the world-ending abomination known as Ganon. They never stop to question Link’s gender once he puts on their culture’s special woman-signifying clothes, so I always thought they would be radically accepting. If getting your gender affirmed were as simple as putting on a pair of pants and a top (and they aren’t even particular about presentation of breasts) …sounds not terfy to me?

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        i see where you’re coming from, but some of the details in both games make it a bit difficult for me to accept that explanation (as much as i want to)

        1. vilia in BotW is repeatedly described as “a man sneaking into gerudo town”. gives me horrible vibes of “men invading women’s spaces”, especially since link is required to stare suspiciously at her and is given the option to accuse her for being a man
        2. once you do have the vai outfit and can enter gerudo town, their leader - riju - immediately notices that link’s “really a man”, rendering the whole disguise pointless. you still need to wear it to enter the town anyway though
        3. you don’t need to harass a trans woman in TotK, you just need to sneak in on your own. the gerudo then freak out because there’s a biological male in their spaces - they don’t phrase it like that but, that’s how it feels. ugh. one of the returning characters from BotW then vouches for you, giving you permanent permission to enter the town. however, all the random gerudo keep going “whoa a man what the heck” whenever you visit for the rest of the game, no matter what you wear
        4. in both games, the gerudo are written as aggressively heterosexual and constantly fascinated with finding men to kiss. they’re frankly not portrayed as positively feminist or remotely queer in any way, at least not to me

        it’s very frustrating 🙃