• macniel@feddit.org
    883·
    1 个月前

    Look at all that screen real estate. Utterly wasted on ads and super tall fonts.

      • macniel@feddit.org
        2·
        1 个月前

        Yes, look at the screen resolution of your phone (mine is at 1080x2340 by 6.38 to 2.97 inches) and then at an old palm PDA from the early 2000s with 320x320 (or at tops 320x480 by 4.8 to 3.1 inches) and now compare what amount of text you can display on each. The Phone should be able to display soo much more Text, but it doesn’t because the Fonts are so tall.

        Thats what I mean.

        • Cousin Mose@lemmy.hogru.ch
          1·
          1 个月前

          Because modern phones are somewhere near 400 DPI the fonts are rendered much larger so that they appear more clearer.

          If you ran it at 72 DPI (like 90s-era monitors, not sure shout PDAs) you could fit an insane amount of text but would it be legible?

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      381·
      1 个月前

      also we have to encase our phones in cases because they’re not durable enough to survive day to day life. they could be made more rugged from the factory

      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        152·
        1 个月前

        That’s mostly because we care about aesthetics. My work phone is some Samsung flagship model from two years ago, I don’t have a case for it (because I don’t give a shit his it looks). Its with me on all factory visits in dirty production environments and what not, dropped it multiple times, stored in my pocket or just thrown in my bag. Screen is not cracked, sides and back are scratched and dinged up, but nothing is broken. They’re plenty durable if you don’t care about minor cosmetic things.

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
          11·
          1 个月前

          oh man your experience is so different from mine 😂

          any phone i drop brings it a little closer to being completely non functional as long as it’s not in a case.

          but i do agree with you about one thing: it is all about aesthetic. there’s tons of phones out there made with less shatterproof/scratch resistant glass, or think enough outer shells to protect their innards because when you buy a phone in a store you find the slim ones sexier

          • titanicx@lemmy.zip
            4·
            1 个月前

            They’re experience is different than pretty much every single person on the planet. Hell I keep my phone in a case covered and I still crack the screen even with screen protectors on it.

            • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
              31·
              1 个月前

              How do you guys crack screens so easily? I’ve had it happen on one phone and I’ve dropped all of them, sometimes without a case, mostly without a screen protector.

              The one that did crack was from like the tiniest drop after 2 years of use but it was a cheap phone without gorilla glass IIRC

                • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
                  1·
                  1 个月前

                  Is it like a foldable or something? Otherwise I don’t get why a 1800$ phone should be so much more fragile than an iPhone a bit more than half that price. Or any of the <1000$ Androids I’ve owned before I switched over.

      • stephen01king@piefed.zipEnglish
        2·
        1 个月前

        Nah, I’d prefer to have a case I can swap once it becomes too damaged vs a phone chassis whose damage I have to live with until I buy a new phone. I’m trying to keep my phone for a long time, so the former is definitely better for my use case.

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
          12·
          1 个月前

          there’s no preventing us from having thinner cases and thicker phones for such scenarios (and is probably the route i’d want to take, too, since i’m extra clumsy)

          • Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            1 个月前

            This is a good idea. I’ve had to learn how to disassemble and fix phones for the wife mostly and me leastly. She broke a camera glass - and a glass coated back plate. My issues were battery replacement and a USB port replacement and one headphone jack replacement. All things I managed to learn how to fix to keep our 5 to 7 year old phones going until we were damned ready to get a new one. Durability is crap for a reason.

      • Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        1 个月前

        I think most phones are plenty durable, people are just paranoid.

        And repairs are too expensive/risky. I think more repairable phones is a better aim than more rugged ones.

        • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
          22·
          1 个月前

          oh! so we’re clear i’m not advocating against repairability. we absolutely must have that. but i’m tired of how easy it is to destroy an unfixable phone. we should have repairable phones that are designed to have long service intervals

          • Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            1·
            1 个月前

            Just so I’m clear as well, I disagree with you on that most phones are easily destroyed :) People are just overly worried about destroying their phones, which is pretty unlikely to happen, because repairing them is annoying and expensive. So they use a case, but it really isn’t all that necessary to do so.

            I’ve had my phone caseless (with screen protector), and dropped it plenty of times, for 4 years and haven’t broken it once. I’m also not too worried about breaking it though because it’s easily repairable. If all phones were I think people would forgo a case more often.

      • Cousin Mose@lemmy.hogru.ch
        32·
        1 个月前

        What are you all doing with your phones that you need to put them in cases? I feel like this is the equivalent of covering a high-end car in bumper stickers.

        • elucubra@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          1 个月前

          A friend got one. A few months in it works flawlessly. It even has a projector built in!

          It really is a tank.

          It’s Chinese. Will it spy on you? Maybe, but so does Google, maybe the govt, the meta app has been proven to listen even when supposedly not active.

          Maybe the least invasive option is Pixel with graphene.

          I use a Xiaomi, fwiw.

      • Dagnet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 个月前

        Nah, specially after a couple of years and the phone’s internal battery doesnt last a full day

    • poinck@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 个月前

      iPhone 13 mini user here; I can relate. Anything bigger than this is too big for me. I will use it until it breaks or security updates stop. After that I will have to see.

      Older, smaller phones with PostmarketOS come to mind. But this OS is not ready for day-to-day-use, just yet.

      • Paradachshund@lemmy.today
        2·
        1 个月前

        My latest was a zenfone 10, which was the smallest I could find that had good features. It was not easy to find anything though 😑

    • blackn1ght@feddit.uk
      2·
      1 个月前

      Same. It’s been a problems for way over 10 years now. I’ve upgraded to the pixel 9 pro and it’s just too big, even though it’s one of the smaller modern phones available. It’s actually smaller than my previous phone but it seems harder to hold one handed.

  • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
    30·
    1 个月前

    By stuff you mean animated GIFs of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions being violated by giant alien tentacles, right?

    Just say porn

    • TeddE@lemmy.world
      7·
      1 个月前

      That’s so obvious I didn’t think it needed to be said. Who doesn’t watch animated GIFs of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions being violated by giant alien tentacles?

      Maybe if you’re a kinky pervert you’d watch .mpeg of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions and giant alien tentacles doing missionary in a committed exclusive relationship exclusively for having kids, but nobody is that depraved.

      • boboliosisjones@feddit.nu
        10·
        1 个月前

        ergonomic, don’t have to move your hands.

        tactile, don’t have to watch the phone to navigate if you are familiar with what you are doing

        “safer” since you can rest your hands while holding your device without worrying about accidental touch inputs that means you can have a firmer grip

        • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 个月前

          But it eats into tbr screen size if implemented the old school Blackberry way, instead what I’d prefer is a under the screen slide out keyboard + navigation pad, like the Blackberry priv, or even the LG wing with the second display screen could have been an amazing form factor, allowing you to control the main display from the smaller customizable touch display at the bottom, at least my main screen wouldn’t have all these finger smudges

          • boboliosisjones@feddit.nu
            2·
            1 个月前

            Yes, but even just for menu navigation without keyboard would be an improvement. wouldn’t have to use more space than the old physical home buttons.

            However typing is the more frustrating element, so it would be nice.

            • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 个月前

              Yeah something like the touch center button in the old Blackberry would be great for navigation, and they could add a fingerprint scanner to it like the old iPhone, and make that stupid top notch smaller

        • ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world
          13·
          1 个月前

          ergonomic, don’t have to move your hands.

          I can’t even begin to understand what you mean by this. It sounds like maybe you’re an iPhone user, which has almost no native universal controls. Android has options like gestures or a digital button bar, which allow for universal navigation from the same location that physical buttons would be in.

          tactile, don’t have to watch the phone to navigate if you are familiar with what you are doing

          Those buttons are contextually dynamic. You wouldn’t be able to use them without looking at the screen anyway.

          “safer” since you can rest your hands while holding your device without worrying about accidental touch inputs that means you can have a firmer grip

          How are you firmly gripping buttons without pushing them? This makes no sense.

          It sounds like you have rose tinted glasses inspired by the inferiority of iOS, but I’m making assumptions.

          • boboliosisjones@feddit.nu
            1·
            1 个月前

            I can’t even begin to understand what you mean by this. It sounds like maybe you’re an iPhone user, which has almost no native universal controls. Android has options like gestures or a digital button bar, which allow for universal navigation from the same location that physical buttons would be in.

            I don’t use iPhone. I mean the button does not move, a touch interface might require input anywhere on the screen.

            Those buttons are contextually dynamic. You wouldn’t be able to use them without looking at the screen anyway

            They are dynamic, but if you are doing the same task, they will do the same thing. Meaning if you are habitually doing a task, you can memorize it.

            How are you firmly gripping buttons without pushing them? This makes no sense.

            I am talking about gripping the whole device, not holding buttons. On a touchscreen device the whole thing is a button, so you only want to grab the bezel, which is as tiny as the designer can muster, to avoid accidental input. This makes for a less firm and ergonomic grip.

            It sounds like you have rose tinted glasses inspired by the inferiority of iOS, but I’m making assumptions

            You are indeed making assumptions. How do you conclude that advocating for buttons is tied to the device that revolitionized the industry towards touch only?

          • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
            1·
            1 个月前

            I think iOS had gesture navigation long before Android, as default anyway.

            But I’m pretty sure that person is talking about how it used to be before smartphones, when you really only needed the ok/enter button and the d-pad around it. Modern smartphones can’t be entirely navigated by a single thumb that you don’t even move.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
    20·
    1 个月前

    Anyone remember when Steve Jobs said in response to adding video support to the iPod that “nobody wants to watch videos on a handheld?” And then just a few months later, iPods got support for images and videos?

    • tino@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 个月前

      and when iPhone 4 was released, Apple also explained it had the perfect size because you could reach any part of the screen with your thumb while holding it in your hand… but also, antennagate. Steve Jobs was full of crap.

  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
    15·
    1 个月前

    There’s an early Corner Gas episode where Brent and Davis get into a competition over who can get the smallest phone, it feels so odd watching it today.

    • relativestranger@feddit.nlEnglish
      5·
      1 个月前

      i had a guy visit the office a couple months ago with a smarty phone that was smaller than my flip phone closed-up. i loved it. i decided then that if i ever did ‘have to’ get one–and i could afford it, it would be one of those (a jelly).

      • GraniteM@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 个月前

        Unihertz Jelly Star! I bought one solely to use as an mp3 player, but I got very close to it becoming my regular full-time phone.

        • smh@slrpnk.net
          2·
          1 个月前

          I use mine as my daily driver. It’s cute and sufficient. I still have a large smartphone at home for some things, but the Star is what I take into the world.

  • Victor@lemmy.world
    13·
    1 个月前

    That Motorola RAZR in the middle, god that was an awesome phone. So sleek. Satisfying to close!

    • hOrni@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 个月前

      You can’t really improve much on the current phone. The screen is almost 100% of the phone’s surface. There are no moving parts. What else could You improve?

      • juliebean@lemmy.zip
        4·
        1 个月前

        i don’t think maximizing screen surface area percentage is that great, actually. i’d much rather have my physical navigation buttons back. also that “notch” thing that so many new phones are doing is stupid af.

        • hOrni@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 个月前

          What’s wrong with a notch? You need a front camera. How else would You do it? The space on the sides of the notch isn’t wasted. It’s where all the icons are displayed. Like the time, Bluetooth, battery and connection. I see it as a good thing.

      • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 个月前

        Look at the design of Blackberry Priv, or the LG Wing, they could keep the big screen and still figure out more innovative layouts, if they wanted to and if there was enough customer demand

  • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world
    11·
    1 个月前

    And what if I don’t want to watch “stuff” on my phone? My phone is supposed to be a portable “swiss-army-knife” of digital tools.

    They made tablets for the other “stuff”

    • 1984@lemmy.today
      3·
      1 个月前

      I think most of the population are on tiktok and that crack, need big screen for maximum experience…

      • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.orgEnglish
        4·
        1 个月前

        I’ll never forget circa 2005, my friend was at the Montreal jazz festival or something. He told me about it and he said he took a video. He whipped out his phone that was basically a really thick pen. He showed me a video of another friend doing goofy stuff. Even on this tiny phonewith a tiny screen, it was really enough. I miss the time when someone took out his phone and you actually had no idea what to expect.