Can’t believe I had to have this conversation again today, with someone who should know better. You can’t just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Edit to add more context:

Rice burner is a pejorative term originally applied to Japanese motorcycles and which later expanded to include Japanese cars or any East Asian-made vehicles. Variations include rice rocket, referring most often to Japanese superbikes, rice machine, rice grinder or simply ricer.

Riced out is an adjective denigrating a badly customized sports car, “usually with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments”. Rice boy is a US derogatory term for the driver or builder of an import-car hot rod. The terms may disparage cars or car enthusiasts as imposters or wanna-bes, using cheap modifications to imitate the appearance of high performance.

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

Source.

I’d like you to read this from a guy who’s father is from the Philippines. His mother is American. Then have a good think about it. Actually think about it for a day or so.

Palting: (reenlist forums)

*When you call a car a “ricer”, you are saying that it is not a nice car, possibly even an atrocious car. I don’t believe you will ever hear a statement like “Look at that gorgeous ricer!!” So, in response to the question, is it derogatory, the answer is that the term ricer is most definitely derogatory.

The question then becomes, is it racist? The term “ricer” was coined to denote the cars that were made in Japan or Korea that were subsequently modded and are obnoxious to the observer. You can ask 100 people what car brand comes to mind when you say “ricer” and 100 of them will come up with an Asian brand. Ask those same 100 people what country or race comes to mind, and 100 will say some Asian country. We can safely say that “ricer” would indicate the Asian culture where rice is the staple food. We can define a term racist if the term pertaining to a race or a race’s cultural character is considered derogatory. Therefore, the term ricer is most definitely racist.

If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a “******”? The term “ricer” most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

My mother is from the USA, my father is from the Philippines. I was born and raised in the Philippines. I am a Filipino. I am not a “halfer”, nor “mestizo”, nor anything other than a Filipino national who chose to reside in the US as an American citizen.*

Source.

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    Such nitpicking for such an insignificant problem. Shit like this is why the Left fell so hard and now we’re stuck with Drumpf

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        Trump and the hard right are not a uniquely American problem, stuff like this is more straw for their imagined leftist extremist strawman. At least you get to feel righteous. * taps sign *

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            Tell that to AfD in Germany, FdI in Italy, FN in France, Neo-Nazis in Australia, Vox in Spain, etc…

            But keep imagining that finding new no-no words to police will do anything to weaken their messaging 💜

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    everyone will feel offended at anything you say.

    nice example of a philippino person being offended by it.

    if i told my philippino friend abt it he’d dismiss these concerns.

    different strokes for different folks.

    bottom line: playing word police is problematic in itself.

    just don’t be a dick and you’re good.

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      The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

      *Taps the sign.*

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        a lot of everyday words or even slang can be described as offensive or racist if the listener deems them this way - or because the history of certain words is rooted in racism.

        you wanna tell the whole linux community that “ricing” is an offensive term?

        you wanna tell marxists that quote “it’s either socialism or barbarism” that the term “barbarian” is a racist term used by romans?

        you wanna tell polish boomers that they shouldn’t say “a jew hung himself” to refer to windy weather?

        a miniscule amount of people think about the racial or xenophobic implications because certain things are too ingrained in society.

        keep the spirit up, you go guys, but these things won’t go away for the next few generations.

        stuff like this just fuels infighting with no real goal. - fighting actual racism and systemic racism. getting hung up on unimportant details will just alienate people who’d be sympathetic to the cause.

        we also likely live in different societies so we have different approaches to how racism is perceived. this discourse reeks of being american.

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          we also likely live in different societies so we have different approaches to how racism is perceived. this discourse reeks of being american.

          jfc not everyone on the internet is american.

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    You can’t just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

    Well then, I hope you never use the word slave, slavery, or any of the derived words, seeing as etymologically they’re a pejorative for Slavic people. And that’s just the first example that comes to mind.

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      The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

      *Taps the sign.*

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    Calling the term “rice” in connection to focusing on aesthetics over preformance racist just seems insane to me. There are objectly racist uses of the word rice to harm Asians. However when 99% of the community never even correlated this useage of the word to anything derogatory twords asians, and even use it positivly when someone genuinely likes JDM or overbuilt cars, the word stops being racist

    You cant claim racist undertones to a word when people don’t corelate that word whatsoever to anything derogatory twords Asians. The modern use of the word spoke about a car that looked like a racecar but didn’t have the preformance of one, making it “ugly”, and then branched to become a positive term when talking about putting lots of efforts into the aesthetic of something

    The evolution of the word is not a moral failing but a redirection from a derogatory borderline slur to a word that captures the idea of “looks over preformance”

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      The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

      *Taps the sign.*

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        Reading through your responses it seems you really dont give a fuck about actually having discussion. Your view is right and everyone else is wrong, because of the simple fact “racism bad”

        Theres no reason to ever redirect a racist phrase into something positive and completely seperated from its racist past, dispite the community at large already doing that. Words cannot change or evolve, and any word with even an inkling of negativity should be banned from ever being spoken (/s). I specifically called out that rice can be used in a racist and as a borderline slur, but that the modern useage of the word is painfully obviously removed from that connotation: considering the massive amount of people under this post also claiming they have never used, or even knew, the word could at all relate to degrading asians.

        Oh and since you’ve responded often rejecting opinions just because “its a white person claiming its not racist” let me ask you, how many Japanese people (since the old meaning of the word was specifically targeted at the japanese) do you know take genuine offence to the word? Because funnily enough my Japanese friends in the car scene love calling things riced out

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          BTW, have you actually asked any of your friends about the term? Because plenty of minorities will just play along with slurs because calling it out is hard and results in *gestures broadly* this sort of response. Just like trans people often won’t call out when they’re deadnamed or misgendered. Or autistic people not calling out when the r-slur is used. It’s kind of pretty common.

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            Well with how often they use the word freely themselves, I’d assume they like the word. But I did ask and yes they like the word, and were very confused why I needed to ask LMAO

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              Fair enough. Still doesn’t change that there’s someone in this thread who’d prefer it wasn’t used. Dunno what to tell you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                I mean thats the thing with any word. If someone tells you their uncomfortable with the useage of it ill either stop using that word around them or remove myself from the conversarion. However I don’t think its right to ban a word completely that has evolved into a simple meaning of “looks over or at the cost of preformance”

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            Why would I ask them without any prompting or context? They don’t interact with any communities that use it or know how it’s origin. Seems like a leading question with no constructive purpose other than to remind them that they should feel sad/angry about who they are as a person.

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                Ah so no actual response; no discussion to be had on when and where support is necessary and what we can do to meet that need. Very constructive, thank you. Glad to know your position is so hollow and self serving.

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    I feel like a lot of people here need to stop taking this information so damn personally. You didn’t know, great, that means you’re not racist. Now you do know. So just… Stop? That’s it. OP wasn’t even a dick about it.

    Personally, I’m grateful when I get a heads up that certain terms are racist, so thank you OP!

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    My ex was Korean and she used the term rice rocket when I mentioned I wanted a Mitsubishi Lancer because it’s a cool fast Japanese car. Asians aren’t a monolith that all think one term or another should be verboten. Assuming all Asians think the term “rice” is a slur is just arrogance.

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      Some people believe that labelling certain words as dirty because they have prejudicial or offensive connotations in a completely unrelated context is effective activism, passing judgement to feel like they’re doing something.

      One such word is “ricing”. It comes from “rice burner”, which is a pejorative term referring to East Asian cars and motorcycles. The modern usage has nothing to do with cars or ethnicity.

      On a related note, the word “queer” has a similar history.

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        I’d also like to point out that Queer has been reclaimed by Queer people. Whereas a bunch of, mostly white, Linux users have “reclaimed” it. But, in the context with my friend today, it was the car modification usage ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          Right so that offensive term is fine but this other offensive term is still super bad, actually.

          I have absolutely no idea what anything in this post is about but it seems to me like a majority of people who use the term use it because that’s what it was called when they were learning about… Whatever it is that it’s referring to. Not because they’re racist.

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            I’m a queer person, I get to use that term. As well, collectively, queer people have decided that it’s a good umbrella term for our community. If someone decided to use it pejoratively, that still wouldn’t be okay.

            When referencing cars, it is being used as a pejorative though, so that seems pretty clear cut.

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        The modern usage has a direct connection to it’s historical usage.

        I’d like you to read this from a guy who’s father is from the Philippines. His mother is American. Then have a good think about it. Actually think about it for a day or so.

        Palting: (reenlist forums)

        *When you call a car a “ricer”, you are saying that it is not a nice car, possibly even an atrocious car. I don’t believe you will ever hear a statement like “Look at that gorgeous ricer!!” So, in response to the question, is it derogatory, the answer is that the term ricer is most definitely derogatory.

        The question then becomes, is it racist? The term “ricer” was coined to denote the cars that were made in Japan or Korea that were subsequently modded and are obnoxious to the observer. You can ask 100 people what car brand comes to mind when you say “ricer” and 100 of them will come up with an Asian brand. Ask those same 100 people what country or race comes to mind, and 100 will say some Asian country. We can safely say that “ricer” would indicate the Asian culture where rice is the staple food. We can define a term racist if the term pertaining to a race or a race’s cultural character is considered derogatory. Therefore, the term ricer is most definitely racist.

        If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a “******”? The term “ricer” most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

        My mother is from the USA, my father is from the Philippines. I was born and raised in the Philippines. I am a Filipino. I am not a “halfer”, nor “mestizo”, nor anything other than a Filipino national who chose to reside in the US as an American citizen.*

        Source.

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          Not that I disagree about using “rice” in this context, but I just want to paraphrase something I think a comedian said but I forget the source now. But basically, no, it’s not as bad as “the n-word” and I know that because you censored “the n-word” but didnt censor the word rice.

          I still think it’s rude and not a particularly good term.

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            If you look at the source, the person who wrote that is filipino, so the n-word isn’t one he gets to use, would be my explanation for that.

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    It started out as a pejorative (like a cheap car with cheap mods) but has become a positive term associated with customization and a respect for effort involved regardless of financial resources (sometimes cheaper being more impressive).

    So uh… Nah I’m gonna keep saying that. You do you.

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      You can’t just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

      *Taps the sign.*

      If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a “******”? The term “ricer” most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

      *Taps the sign.*

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        You can’t just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

        I think you should look into reclaiming slurs. The once derogatory term now has a positive meaning and that’s imo a good thing. Look at the word ‘Queer’, most people (especially young people) don’t know it used to be derogatory, and I don’t think people should stop using it.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation

        With an obvious albeit obligatory note that if you use a word in a derogatory way that’s obviously not ok, if you use it with the compliment definition it’s a bit different.

        Some reappropriation can be at varying levels in different countries which is why (I assume) it’s seen as worse in other countries.

        If you are to respond I would request to hear your rebuttal without copy and pasting the same article please.

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          Sorry, let me clarify. You can’t just un-racist a word, unless you’re the targeted group, because it makes you feel bad man. I figured that I didn’t need to add that caveat? I’ve talked about the word Queer in other places in the thread.

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            It was a derogatory insult toward poor gear heads, who else can reclaim it? Only the Asian born subset? Asian people who never touched a motorcycle? It was never about any Asian traits of the riders or the vehicles but strictly that they were imported and the low cost.

            Would you be ardently crusading in a hypothetical alternate history where these people had access to cheap Soviet Ladas? Surely cabbage burner would be just as offensive?

            While we’re on the subject, here is a non-exhaustive list of European heritage word associations you are no longer allowed to say in any context outside of a recipe:

            • Pasta
            • Sauerkraut
            • Rye
            • Potato
            • Beet
            • Milk
            • Mayo
            • Butter
            • Burger
            • Donut
            • Cucumber
            • Beer
            • Vodka
            • Baguette
            • Pickles/Pickled
            • Radish
            • Herring

            Much like your anecdotal blog post source, I personally find these highly offensive.

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              The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

              *Taps the sign.*

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                I can also insert block quotes as an authoritative source - Wikipedia 2025

                When it was a common pejorative it was aracial, only determined by a person’s association with an object. As commented above, the people who own those objects are embracing the word in a positive framing. Seems fair to me.

                Rice is, in reality, a very general word. It’s a staple food for half the world, independently domesticated on 3 separate continents. If anything, it should be associated with being cheap and versatile. Reinforcing the idea that it’s uniquely Asian is probably doing more harm than good when not all parts of Asia rely on it as a staple (eg: wheat and barley are far more common in northern China).

                If you were someone of Asian heritage posting your personal experience on a forum for car mods I would understand. That would be a useful discussion within the community about what is/is not OK and how they could be more inclusive.

                This post is the complete opposite. You are decreeing (as an ‘ally’) a phrase as racist in an unrelated community that rarely, if ever, sees any usage of it. Judging by the comments, it’s far more common for this community to know it in the context of the RICE backronym or a cheap “rice and beans” framing. Who have we helped here? Why don’t we spend our digital ink on a more important topic?

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                  If you were someone of Asian heritage posting your personal experience on a forum for car mods I would understand. That would be a useful discussion within the community about what is/is not OK and how they could be more inclusive.

                  Did you know that, as an ally, one of the most important things you can do is speak up for minorities on issues that concern them?

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            ah that kinda makes sense. Can you explain why who’s reclaiming a slur makes a difference? I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t like a positive meaning to a once negative word. It doesn’t really make a lot of sense to me.

            I’d reference how “cunty” (used as a compliment) isn’t exactly only said by women, but people who are generally seen as ‘in the loop’. How come the word referenced in the post isn’t treated the same way? I genuinely am asking and find this really interesting.

            Also idk if it did but sorry if my message came off as rude before, I was kinda stressed about an advising meeting when I wrote it

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          A sleeper is something else though, sort of the opposite of a ricer. A sleeper Honda Civic would look largely unmodded but be a monster under the hood. A ricer Honda Civic is gonna have a wing and loud, giant exhaust and other very obvious modifications.

          Personally I love a heavily modified Japanese car, and in my experience of car culture, “ricer” has largely been reclaimed by the people who drive them.

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              That’s not really how language and culture work. Some words are going to evolve and change whether you think they’re allowed to or not.

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                  Okay, why don’t you start using the n-word to mean the colour black and see how many friends that gets you sweetie! 😊💜

                  Because that’s not really how language and culture work. I don’t get to decide how a word is used any more than you do.

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      I’m new to this idea as of this thread, so maybe I’m not understanding the issue correctly, but:

      • mog
      • style
      • furbish
      • theme
      • vamp
      • spruce
      • look
      • snazz
      • attune
      • deck
      • alter
      • finify
      • spiff

      I hope this list is at least helpful in generating ideas.

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      That’s the problem. People aren’t going to stop using rice as a verb until some new term exists that’s appropriately specific, and there is no alternative term I’m aware of.

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              I think you might be talking about two different things. On an individual level, sure, it’s easy to simply stop using a word and use a lengthier or less accurate term, but I think they are talking more societally/culturally, where you have to where you have to educate the entire culture that is racist, and assuming everyone gives a shit about being a lil racist enough to stop using it.

              To effectively change a term like that with a relatively small group, you do kinda need a better/very close term to replace it.

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      As far as I’m aware, blinged out is perfectly acceptables :3

      Edit: Someone pointed out that this is theft of AAVE, which is a point I hadn’t considered.

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        That sounds like decorating something with gems and precious metals. Doesn’t make a lot of sense for desktop customization, considering that most linux destop customizers go for a very minimalist look.

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        As far as I’m aware, blinged out is perfectly acceptables :3

        really? Let’s substitute the term we’re sensitive about because it might offend asian people for one that might offend black people?

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          Blinged out doesn’t have a history that includes racist usage. I did some searching and it didn’t surface anything problematic, but if you know something I don’t then I’ll happily stop using it :)

          Edit: Someone pointed out that this is theft of AAVE, which is a point I hadn’t considered.

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    I got called out for saying this once, and went back and looked it up. I had meant it sort of neutrally, and there are a lot of neutral uses of it out there, but there are probably just as many clearly negative/racist uses of it, and practically no positive uses.

    There’s a way of being a racist that is like crypto-racism. It appears neutral, but actually moves the ball forward for racists. And my experiences with many many different kinds of people, is that the people who are best at this are like hardcore Nazis.

    I personally am not someone who thinks that advocacy and allyship begins and ends with saying or refusing to say certain words. I think there are a lot of really serious problems with the current liberal establishment posture towards race, where you continue to be heavily and unfairly exploited, and now imprisoned or deported because of skin color, but politically we will make sure people aren’t allowed to say certain words anymore. But also being conscientious of our speech is a part of it, whether we like it or not. Ultimately it isnt some great loss of my freedom if I decide to call a Yamaha motorcycle a “Yamaha” instead of a “ricer”. I have a large enough vocabulary that I can spare a word or two.

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      I think there are a lot of really serious problems with the current liberal establishment posture towards race, where you continue to be heavily and unfairly exploited, and now imprisoned or deported because of skin color, but politically we will make sure people aren’t allowed to say certain words anymore.

      You’re absolutely right, you can’t begin and end your advocacy with no longer using certain words. That’s why I’m out protesting, where I can, for causes like Palestinian recognition, Israeli sanctions and Changing the Date.

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        Glad to hear! What is Changing the date? I’m also active politically, too few people are though

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          In Australia, we celebrate a national holiday on the anniversary of Captain Cook’s invasion of Australia. Indigenous Australian’s therefore don’t feel like they can celebrate, and alongside allies, advocate for changing the date. Protests on that day also advocate for truth-telling as well as other actions discussed in the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

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            I’m stoked that there is a mass indigenous support movement in your country. In the USA, there are indigenous support groups, but mostly NGOs without mass mobilizations. Ive never heard of indigenous rights brought up in the same sentence as Palestinian liberation, except in the abstract. Which could be a symptom of the whiteness of American leftist movements, but I’m pretty plugged in to what’s going on in my area and nationally

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              Ive never heard of indigenous rights brought up in the same sentence as Palestinian liberation, except in the abstract.

              Not just in the same sentence! At every indigenous rights protest I’ve been too since the war started, Palestinian groups have been guests of honour, as they have a shared struggle against colonialism.

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    Oh, I had only ever heard this term in the context of Linux desktop customization. Like in the context of superfluous over the top additions that look pretty but ultimately do not add anything to a system and may to some extent degrade performance.

    I dont know why I never connected it with the car scene or with racist attitudes. I’m ashamed to say I think I’ve used the term myself once or twice. Thanks for sharing an explanation of the history of this evidently very racist term, I imagine there are others like myself who have failed to make that connection.

    Idk why its so hard to just say “setup”. I’m not sure that a use case this particular warrants its own terminology.

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      I’m ashamed to say I think I’ve used the term myself once or twice.

      It’s okay, you didn’t know then, so didn’t use it intentionally to cause harm.

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        Funnily enough the Finnish version of that mnemonic definitely sounds super racist:

        Kylmä (cold)
        Koho (form of “raise/rise”)
        Kompressio (probably obvious, I hope)

        KKK (aka. the 3 K treatment)

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        True, I would say that usage is completely innocent. The backronym “Racing Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements” is a red herring though. Folks try to use it to explain how the term doesn’t carry racial connotations.

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      It’s moreso its use to discuss cosmetic modifications that I’m calling out, either on cars/motorbikes, but also it’s newer use for customising your Linux DE. Rice as in the food/plant is obviously fine.

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        There is nothing wrong with the term ricing as in customizing, when cooking rice you have to clean out the rice for any dirt inside I found screws in my rice once

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    I agree with the overall message here; there’s definitely better words for customisation of a Window Manager/Desktop Environment.

    I can’t agree that everyone using that term is racist though. I doubt that everyone who uses it is doing so to discriminate or abuse another race. As proven by this thread, the history of that word isn’t exactly common knowledge in the spaces people are using it.

    “bigot” might be a better term to describe people that know the history of the word and actively refuse to change their ways. It feels like throwing “racist” on here where it doesn’t exactly apply sort of dampens the impact of the word. But that’s just me.

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      The people that now know the meaning, but are trying to argue that it doesn’t matter, are no longer ignorant, and therefore don’t have an excuse.

      Another example of this is that I grew up with the term “gyped” meaning to have been taken advantage of when making a deal. When I learnt that it was a racist term that denigrates Romani/Traveller peoples, I stopped using it. If I’d continued too, then that would have made me racist :)

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        The people that now know the meaning, but are trying to argue that it doesn’t matter, are no longer ignorant, and therefore don’t have an excuse.

        I agree, but you’re meme implies that using the term at all makes you racist

        The equivalent of this meme would be someone calling you a racist the very first time you ever used the term “gyped”. You yourself stated you didn’t know that term had racist history, so how could you have been racist?

        It’s a different situation when someone has knowledge of history and then goes on to use the term. That’s textbook bigotry and I would agree that’s also racsim, but you’re casting a much wider net with this meme encompassing everyone who uses the term knowledgable or not

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          You can be part of systemic racism and not know it. It still affects the other person even if you didn’t intend it to.

          We live in a society. It’s not a personal failing if you were racist and didn’t know it. But I think it is a responsibility to try and change for the better, just like in all aspects of life.

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          My friend, it is a meme. The format doesn’t lend well to longform explanation. Why are you choosing to come after me for that, when there are people in this very thread saying that they’ll use it regardless?

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            Why are you choosing to come after me for that, when there are people in this very thread saying that they’ll use it regardless?

            I tried to answer this with my first comment

            It feels like throwing “racist” on here where it doesn’t exactly apply sort of dampens the impact of the word. But that’s just me.

            I hope I’m not coming off agressive or nothing. I’m not saying what you’re doing is entirely wrong or anything because it benefits everyone to spread knowledge especially for something like this. I really dislike that it’s made normal in Linux circles. But this meme is calling everyone that uses a fairly common term racist while you drop good history lessons on individual comments of people that don’t know better. Maybe there’s a more effective way to get your point across?

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              I hope I’m not coming off agressive or nothing. I’m not saying what you’re doing is entirely wrong or anything because it benefits everyone to spread knowledge especially for something like this. I really dislike that it’s made normal in Linux circles. But this meme is calling everyone that uses a fairly common term racist while you drop good history lessons on individual comments of people that don’t know better. Maybe there’s a more effective way to get your point across?

              That’s fair, I’m sorry if I came across standoffish. This is a meme community though, and a simplified meme wasn’t going to be able to convey that full meaning, which is why I brought it up in the comments. Maybe I shoulda dropped it in the text section but I was just frustrated with my friend and wanted to vent a bit of steam. I can go add some stuff to the post.