• SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    14 小时前

    I don’t call them Nazis because I dislike them, I dislike them because they’re Nazis.

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      No they are fascists, Nazi was the shorthand for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), the first 4 letters.

      Fascism gets its name from Italy, Mussolini’s Fascist Party, but it is the name for the political ideology as a whole, there is no Nazism and Americans being called Nazis is kinda weird, imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

      Thanks for coming to my stickler talk.

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        4 小时前

        What do you call people who wear red and black swastikas and say heil Hitler while doing a salute typical of the Nazi party?

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        8 小时前

        I don’t live in America, and many people here actually do use MAGA or Trumpism to describe the local right wing people and parties because they are largely just copying America…

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        8 小时前

        imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

        It’s semantics. The German and American fascists all pull from the same ideological and rhetorical playbook.

        Veneration of the national security state. Zealous religious orthodoxy. Obsession with loyalty oaths and ethnicity sorting. Reflexive xenophobia. Institutionalized quackery.

        It’s all the same shit. Same as Apartheid Africa. Same as Kuomanting China. Same as Pinochet’s Chile and Milei’s Argentina.

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        10 小时前

        If the situation were flipped, and Hitler was rising to power ~80 years after we had a massive war to take out MAGA fascists, then yeah I think people would refer to them as “MAGA”, at least at first.

        Nazi means refers to National Socialist, but at this point in history, it can also just refer to political movements that are fascist and Nazi-like. The meanings of words shift over time.

        Edit: Fixed to appease a pedant.

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          10 小时前

          Nazi doesn’t mean national socialist, as I said it’s literally just the first 4 letters, a shorthand a nickname, American version for Republicans would be Repu/Repus.

          Lots of people I have seen that think it’s Nazi because the Sozialistische has the Zi, it’s nonsense, Nazional is how germans pronounce National, hence it’s shortened to Nazi.