• Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      15 hours ago

      Still not getting it. These people have sacrificed a substantial part of their life and have nothing to show for it.

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        It is not that working shouldn’t give anything beyond what you get for not working, but that everyone should have access to money to live for.

        I am from Denmark and here you earn a fair living wage for most jobs and you have plenty of opportunity to get a high paying job. But for those who are unable to work or work as much or for some other reason are unemployed, they still get paid a small amount of money that they can live for and still has access to things like free health care and free education.

        So if you “sacrifice a substantial part of your life” to make a lot of money, you can do that and earn the luxury you get from that. The system just ensures that everyone gets enough to live for, whether they are working or not.

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        People are saying “no one should live in poverty,” not “no one should live in poverty, by which we mean no one should make money for their labor.” You’re tilting at windmills.

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        You don’t get it, you don’t have to sacrifice anything to have value as a human.

        Why do Libs always have to dehumanise people?

        If you work 100 or 0 hours a week, you have exactly the same right to basic life needs.

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          13 hours ago

          You dont get. Beyond your idea utopian society the society these people labor to build has forsaken them.

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            I don’t understand why you’re having such a hard time with what they’re explaining to you. No one is disagreeing that working people are getting shafted.

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            Yeah it’s pretty stupid to slave away under liberal capitalism and expect anything. We clearly don’t live in a utopia, yet these people act like we do and expect to be rewarded by it.

            Once people start living in reality and realising our innate worth is more than a number on a corporate timesheet, maybe we can get somewhere.

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              12 hours ago

              We could talk but their isn’t some brain trust that is just waiting to be awaken. There is no grand self actualization. Quit wishing for it. People are dumb, scared, complacent creatures. Quit waiting for them to come together, hold hands, and stop the violence.

              Thats reality.

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                People are dumb, scared, complacent creatures.

                False. Why do you refuse others their dignity? Is it because you have lost respect for yourself?

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                We don’t need a brain trust, we need you lot to start using what you already have.

                Reality is, as long as people like you argue and fight to defend the harmful status quo, things will only ever get worse. But this attitude is so deeply ingrained into you, that you can’t even see that all humans have the same worth.