I feel sorry for them but I feel a lot worse for the Palestinians who are the actual victims of the genocide.

So you’re telling me this entire thing is not even about his videos but about a single edgy tweet BE made months ago.

Meanwhile ChapoTrapHouse is literally advocating for the mass murdering baby killing rapist right now and you’re all gleefully on their community. So far for purity tests.

https://youtu.be/1Zb6fZCqdrQ?t=6360

There isn’t, the German government simply chooses to interpret “Jewish people” as “Israel” using the IHRA definition of antisemitism which is created by Israel.

Now show me what part of the video I posted there is transphobic.

For clarification my position on Hexbear has been formed before the Chinese betrayal.

As for the UNSC vote, spare me the justification for the Chinese hypocrisy.

Would you say they same if Russia and Iran were on the UNSC and passed a US resolution claiming Taiwan is an independent nation and China should be demilitarized?

2. They voted for the colonization plan haha are you going to tell me Kamala Harris supports a two state solution too?

I will not respond to anything else this is a massive waste of time.

1. same
2. Meaningfully supporting Israel now by giving it a UN mandate to colonize Palestine. I can also point to the West being the biggest UNRWA donor. Whitewashing deeds don’t meaningfully change any of this.
3. This is imperialism. They support an international colonization force now.
4. It’s beyond obvious that this is a pragmatic move by China to sell out Palestine in exchange for US concessions elsewhere. Russia instantly presented a similar Ukraine draft, and China got Nexperia back. Those are two things that come to mind. If you’re saying that China didn’t get anything in return for this vote then they wouldn’t just be imperialist but also stupid. But certainly no concessions for Palestine.

Yes Hexbear is a Zionist server which believes that Contrapoints being trans means nobody is allowed to criticize Contrapoints for being a Zionist.

Okay so you didn’t watch the video why bother commenting?

There’s no difference between abstaining and voting for the resolution. The result is the same.

You were given numerous lengthy responses

Numerous bad responses full of either lies or justifications for Chinese imperialism. As I said before, I will not take people seriously who argue similarly to Kamala Harris fans and tell me that Harris China needs to support Israel because it’s convenient to Harris China

Words on paper mean nothing

So why are we arguing on the internet? If words mean nothing and have no effect why do we even use words? The answer is that words do mean something. The UN is used as a public show of hands for countries to show their stances and whom they support in the world. Words like Casus Beli exist for a reason. Now Israel can claim international legitimacy to keep their Nazi soldiers in Gaza, and probably build settlements there soon.

They aren’t endorsing the resolution

They have a seat with veto rights at the UNSC. Once again, they can give up their seat if they want to pretend to be neutral powerless babies. Abstaining is a hypocritical vote in favor. China and Russia both know very well their abstention means it will pass the vote. Don’t use this argument to defend them I regard it as incredibly bad faith. China is a critical member on the UNSC. They passed this resolution so they should stand behind it with pride. They already know their ‘alternative’ draft is going to get vetoed by the US. Why would the US let this pass? Either I’m severely overlooking something here or this is just a bad faith red herring against people who don’t know how the UNSC voting works.

Considering the US threatened to escalate if the resolution was vetoed

…So? The US and Israel say they’re going to escalate every single day. Trump said he was going to flatten Gaza the day he came to power. The difference is that now the genocide has China’s blessing. I even provided you with the example of Israel instantly violating the UNSC resolution and committing a massacare on 25 Palestinians. They don’t care about it. The only thing China and Russia did was give Israel international approval for the genocide.

We both know that this sham imperialist UN force will in no way stabilize the region. The only way to stabilize it is by removing the destabilizzing force. Which is done with armed resistance.

This misattribution gives ammo to liberals that attack China as imperialist

Good. It’s not a misattribution. China is endorsing a the genocide of Palestinians as a bargaining chip for their own gain. They got Nexperia back the very next day. Nothing you have said shows in any way that China is serious about the Palestinian cause. They are increasing trade with Israel and building out Israeli infrastructure, even building colonist settlements in the West Bank.

weakening the ability for China to succeed in establishing Palestinian statehood

Why count on China to do the right thing when they have just proven to do the wrong thing? If people don’t push back against that, you can bet China will keep doing it. If China wants to earn back that trust they should start showing some serious dedication to Palestine. This exactly the argument DNC libs used during the election. “Yes Kamala is firmly on the side of Israel, but it’s only because she needs to to get elected. We need to support her now and she will do better when she gets in power. She is the lesser evil and we shouldn’t criticize her”.

Unless you have a very compelling reply which isn’t just an excuse why it’s okay when China does imperialism, this will be my last response here or I will respond with a Twitter post which says basically the same thing.

The plan will not work to begin with, which is why China and Russia are drafting an alternative

China and Russia presented their alternative plan 2 days (iirc) before they passed the US resolution. The expectation was that they would veto the US resolution. With plenty of morally justifiable reasons, like the absence of a Palestinian state, they could easily present their own resolution as an alternative and win the moral highground.

They didn’t. They passed the US resolution instead.

You aren’t being strawmanned in any way.

Hamas has no problem handig over governance of Gaza. They have publicly stated they wish to continue only as an armed resistance group. At this point doing governance is a hindrance to them. The problem is that the resolution specifically attacks Hamas as an armed resistance group.

They would never agree to any resolution to lay down their weapons without a Palestinian state, in which case they would simply merge into the army of said Palestinian state with their weapons. Which brings us to another meme

‘Other factions’ here refers to PIJ and other Palestinian resistance factions, not the PA.

I’ve answered every single statement you made multiple times over the past few days, with people on Lemmygrad being unable to do anything except call it ‘trolling’ and banning me. Which is why I respond more and more annoyed and assuming I’m with people who are bad faith.

For almost everyone else I’d just post a Twitter screenshot but I’m going to make an exception for you in the hopes you’re arguing in good-faith and not just blindly advocating for anything China does.

1. The Dropsite Tweet contains Arabic text without any translation so I’m assuming it’s the Arabic Aljazeera. English Aljazeera is extremely tame and tries to pander to a Western audience. For example you can find Aljazeera posting full Hamas combat videos on their Arabic Youtube channel, it’s pretty wild. Dropsite has multiple Arabic and even local Palestinians on their reporting team gathering this info. Seeing how bad the UN resolution is, the Dropsite tweet looks very credible. If that’s really all your concern I could look up whether it’s real but if it’s not going to change your mind I’m not going to waste my time on it.

2. This is not about whether China or Russia can stop it. It’s whether they endorse it. The reason people recognize Israel’s borders where it is, is because the United Imperialists in 1948 voted to steal half of Palestine and give it to European colonists. The reason the UN is seen as a toothless tiger is because every time a controversial resolution heavily favoring one side is introduced, it is vetoed by the other party. Except now. I would urge you to directly stop quoting any other Arab Zionist country. Everyone has known long before this week that they are Western aligned and quoting them as if they have any say over the Palestinians is extremely imperialistic. This tweet really does describe that better than I ever could

As for the “return to war”, Israel bombed and killed more than 25 Palestinians right after the resolution passed. To the surprise of no-one.

The only thing China and Russia have done is fully normalize the genocide which they pretended to be against for 2 years and publicly announce that they believe the IDF has the right to colonize Gaza because we both know the resistance isn’t disarming. And even if it would, the IDF would claim a false flag rocket and stay there anyways. This resolution does nothing for Palesitinians except the entire United Imperialists endorsing the genocide, and collectively agreeing to reward Israel for committing genocide for two entire years, while Israel is actively violating the current ceasefire

China also wouldn’t lose face by opposing this Zionist resolution, they would save face. The resolution contained many easy points of opposition. For example it doesn’t include a Palestinian state at all. It only serves Israel, which is already saying the quiet part out loud, they’re not going to give Palestinians a state even if the resistance would be disarmed (just look at the West Bank to find out what happens if they disarm anyway).

I figure I’m owed at least that much after I’ve consistently proven myself to be firmly anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian for years, even pre-Al Aqsa Flood.

This is the mask off moment for many people to show whether they truly support Palestinians because they oppose imperialism and oppression (if you think I’m an ‘anti-imperialist’ then any “true marxist-leninist” should go way harder on this than me, I’m sure you know the ML position on imperialism). Or whether they were simply ML cosplayers who only supported Palestine because it used to be the official Chinese position, which is now no longer valid, but they have bound their entire identity to supporting China and therefore cannot mentally deal with the contradictions (similar to showing a ‘progressive’ that AOC is a Zionist but they just keep coping).

TLDR: All of these tweets