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  • Interesting. Where did you go to see that? Did you have anonymous data collection enabled, by chance? I wonder if they tied enabling it to that setting by mistake or if something else is going on… Just to confirm, do you have a noncommercial account or is it corporate?

    Assuming it’s corporate - if you haven’t already, can you report that to JetBrains? What you described is out of line with what they published. I would expect them to take it seriously as I would expect their corporate customers to be very unhappy about this, if it impacted them.

    Just to do my own due diligence - I have a personal “All Products Pack” license. Of the tools installed, only Datagrip has an update to 2025.2.4 available (the version where this data collection was added). When I opened it for the first time, I was prompted to “Help Us Improve Full Line Code Completion.” I clicked “Don’t Send,” then confirmed that everything was unchecked in Settings > Appearance & Behavior > System Settings > Data Sharing. So for individual users, at least in my case, it seems it’s behaving as described.



  • Stating that this is on by default is misleading. If you or your company pay for the product or if you use the open source (“community”) or EAP version of it, it’s disabled by default.

    The option is only enabled by default in one very specific use case:

    We are asking our users to help with this, and here’s how it works:

    • For companies: Admins can enable data sharing at a company-wide level. To support early adopters, we’re offering a limited number of free All Products Pack subscriptions to organizations willing to participate while we explore this program. For companies that are not willing to opt in to the program, nothing changes, and as always, admins are in control.
    • For individuals on non-commercial licenses: Data sharing is enabled by default, but you can turn it off anytime in the settings.
    • For individuals using commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds: Nothing changes. You can still opt in via the settings if you are willing to share data with JetBrains (and your admins, if any, allow it).

    For reference, the non-commercial licenses are the full, commercial versions of the IDE provided “at no cost for education, hobby projects, and open-source work.” The risk of entering confidential data into your IDE that could then get collected is much lower for these use cases… though still not zero.

    Do those users get a notification of this change when installing an update? If not, that’s concerning. But if they do, and can then quickly opt out if desired, then this really seems like a non-issue. This is especially true since JetBrains makes it clear that being able to anonymously collect data is the reason they’re able to offer those products for free; thus why users on those licenses cannot opt out of that anonymous data collection.

    It’s pretty clear that JetBrains is saying “We would like your data so we can improve our product; if you’re okay with that, we’ll let you use our tools for free.” And they also have options, free and paid, where you don’t have to give up your data. Seems like a reasonable trade for a person to be able to make to me.








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  • Please, enlighten me - how do you propose we use the term “AI” in a way that’s more useful than a definition that includes machine learning, large language models, and computer vision?

    I doubt I’ll agree with your definition, but I’m curious to see how you would exclude machine learning, computer vision, LLMs, etc., from your definition. My assumption is that your definition is going to be either a derivative of “AI is anything computers can’t do yet” or based on pop culture / sci fi, but maybe you’ll surprise me.

    To be clear, I’m a software engineer; I’m not speaking in sales speak. I’ve derived my understanding of the term from a combination of its historical context and how it’s used in both professional and academic contexts, not from marketing propaganda or from sci fi and pop culture. I’m certainly aware of the hype machine that’s ongoing, but there are also tons of fascinating advancements happening on a regular basis, and the term “AI” is at minimum a useful term to refer to technologies that leverage similar techniques.


  • it’s not ‘ai’, it’s just a poorly trained voice recognition system that’s trying to decipher any random person’s voice.

    I’m baffled that you can say “It’s not ‘AI,’ it’s a machine learning powered speech to text system” with a straight face.

    Even if we were to agree that ML-powered speech to text isn’t AI (and I don’t agree to that premise, for the record), there’s still the matter of processing the transcription to transform it into something that can be understood by the point of sale system - aka natural language processing. And while that NLP could be implemented without use of an LLM, given LLM’s current level of hype and the ease with which they can be shoved into any given product, I wouldn’t bet on Taco Bell execs approving such an approach, much less asking for it.


  • I’ll have to check out both OpenSCAD and Code Comic. Some completely non-CAD DSLs that you might be interested in, since you mentioned GraphViz:

    Mermaid.js does something very similar to Graphviz. There are a couple other similar tools like that out there, but Mermaid is supported in a lot of places natively or as an easy to use plugin, like GitHub Markdown (and other git forges like Forgejo), Hedgedoc, Obsidian, SilverBullet, etc…

    I’d also argue that LaTeX counts, and to a lesser extent, Markdown - compare using them to using Word.

    And reveal.js is an equivalent for slide deck creation that would normally be done with PowerPoint.