In the second half of 2021, a systematic effort by the Belarusian government created a crisis on the EU’s eastern border: the authorities in Minsk began bringing would-be migrants into Belarus, then transporting them to the frontier with Poland and the Baltic states. Although Russia’s subsequent full-scale invasion of Ukraine drew attention away from the manufactured problem, the situation has only gotten worse. In 2024 alone, 17,000 people entered the EU illegally through Belarus — three times more than in the year before.
Refugees are undeterred by the physical obstacles — metal fences topped with barbed wire — which Lithuania and Poland erected in 2022 (with Latvia planning to finish its own by the end of this year). Numerous accounts have been collected showing that Belarusian border guards themselves transported migrants all the way up to the barriers, and when a similar crisis broke out on the Russian-Finnish border in 2023,
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Russia’s FSB had played the leading role in creating that copycat scheme. Now, a former Belarusian border guard tells […] how he escorted migrants to the border, while an Iranian refugee described how he managed to cross into the EU in 2023 with the help of the Belarusian authorities.
We were bound by a separate set of instructions signed by Alexander Lukashenko. For instance, it said that upon spotting a suspicious person in the border zone, we had to fire two warning shots into the air and a third directly at the person. – A former conscript of the Belarusian Border Service.
The officers started shouting slogans about Lithuanian enemies and instructing us on how we would move migrants across the border into Lithuania. – A former conscript of the Belarusian Border Service.
They [the Belarusian border guards] warned us: if you go back to Belarus, they’ll beat you up. --* M., an Iranian refugee*
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17000 people? What does this number refer to?
It is in the article and in the excerpt in the post. For reference, Poland has a population of 37.6 Million people. So that is 0,04% relative to the population of Poland. So for every 2,200 people living in Poland, there was one person coming “illegally” through the border from Belarus.
So that’s the number of people that managed to cross the border. Not the number of people that attempted to after they were transported to the border area by the Belarussian government.
This is a significant manipulation and you should be ashamed, especially when you consider how aggressive and dangerous these people are to Polish soldiers that I know personally, as I live in Eastern Poland.
So even if it was 170,000 that would amount to 0,4% of the Polish population and then there is Germany, France and other high population EU countries that could have easily helped house and process the people. Not making it a crisis would have long stopped the procedure alltogether, but Poland wanted to make it a crisis for reasons of Racism. By doing so Poland is working together with Russian and Belarus.
People may be aggressive to the Polish soldiers, because the Polish and Belarusian soldiers are working together to abuse, torture and push the people around.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/12/10/poland-brutal-pushbacks-belarus-border
https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/trapped-pushed-back-and-tortured-polands-crackdown-refugees-europes-border
When it comes to abusing and torturing “brown people” Polish and Belarusian border agents seem to be on the same side.
So the only option people have is to push through somehow and hope that they manage to make it far enough that Poland isn’t illegally deporting them back into the “death zone”. There is a reasonable chance that the soldiers you know are criminals, who should face a court and likely a long if not lifelong prison sentence. But when it comes to crimes against humanity at the borders, the EU is enabling such criminal practices. Again this is serving the interests of Putin and Lukashenko.
Are you an idiot? Accepting hundreds of thousands people who force the way through the border instead of following legal procedures is a recipe how you end with far-right majority in a scope of one election cycle.
First, nice strawman there. Second, plenty of countries with comparable populations accept that many immigrants and are doing fine. Third, you did not address the abuse by Polish soldiers. Fourth, you’re already getting your far-right majority, so congratulations. Fifth, reported for incivility.
Strawman of what? I’m literally arguing the position described in a post above.
I can’t describe “plenty” of countries in EU zone as being “fine”. You barely hold the far rights from being voted in.
Polish soldiers are in their right to defend the border in whatever means necessary.
Me? I’m not Polish. Also, PiS is piss but we already seen them in action, they are predictable and not pro-russian, what can’t be said about other right wing parties (hell, even Poland has Konfederacia which is 10 times worse).
You said “instead of following legal procedures” as if there were any legal procedures they could actually take. These people are forcing their way across the border because the other option is them fucking dying.
I never said “in the EU.” Countries like Austria, Sweden and Lithuania have got nothing on Malaysia, Spain or Ireland (all thriving democracies with massive immigrant populations), and the fact that Poland is even in this conversation despite its migrant population being comparable to countries less than ten times its size is nothing short of comical.
They, in fact, do not. That’s literally the point of international law; torturing and assaulting asylum seekers is both illegal and morally abhorrent.
If you’re from a European country, odds are you’re already facing down a rising far-right. Racing to the bottom on who can be worse to their fellow human beings is not how defeat the far right, because the far-right will always win that race.
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If there are no ways for them to get into EU legally, then they shouldn’t get into EU. I don’t buy the “need” to go to EU specifically, there are plenty of countries in the world you can end up in that aren’t war-torn, where you’ll be fine.
Ireland has like 10 times less illegal immigrants than in other EU countries, besides, who generally emigrate to Ireland? Thats Eastern Europe.
Oh no, the international law was broken. Call the international police 😣
You literally write this under article that explains this whole thing to be russian plot. Far-right surge isn’t a random event either, it’s part of russian attack on EU & USA. You don’t win the far right by falling flat to russian traps.
“instead of following legal procedures”
This would be funny, if it wouldn’t be used to justify torturing and murdering people.
The people have been lied to by Belarus. Now they are trapped between the Polish side and the Belarusian side. Both force them them back into the “death zone” where there is no food and water. People detail cruel abuse and torture by both sides.
When people try to register that they are seeking Asylum legally at the border guards, they are denied. Poland is criminally denying the people the chance to legally apply for Asylum, thereby the only options left are dying or trying to enter and make it through Poland. Forcing people into “illegality” to then use that claimed “illegality” as a justification for abuse or even murder is a standard Fascist/Authoritarian tactic.
The idiots are those, who defend brutal crimes against humanity arguing it would prevent the far-right. Actually it means the Fascists win by getting their policies pushed through without even being in the government. Then this normalizes their even further fascist positions and makes them even more “electable”. However if the “center” turns criminal, fueled by racist hate and employing crimes against humanity on a mass scale, they themselves also become like the Fascists.
The people have been lied to by Belarus - make it a problem of Belarus. Raise the UN concern, sanction the fuckers to shreds.
You think you’ll help people if you just let them in? They’ll scale this shit 10 times and more and more people would get hurt. You are dealing with hostile government, they have resources to do that (especially that it’s net positive for them as they take payments from them).
Belarus already is sanctioned. Humanitarian duties are not dependent on who is responsible. It is the legal obligation of Poland and the EU to provide for these people. It is equally their legal obligation not to torture them, push them back across the border or in some cases kill them.
Belarus cannot scale up these operations indefinitely and it would be comparable easy for the EU to deport people back to Iraq or other countries of origin, if it is found that they are not at a danger in those countries. They are undeniably at danger in the “death zone” between the border fences.
In the current situation Putin and Lukashenko get exactly what they want. They can show to the world that the EU countries are criminals, who give fuck all about human rights and international law when it doesn’t fit their larger political goals. Furthermore it helps keeping the narrative of refugee “crisis” going, which helps the Russian backed Fascists like the AfD, Front National and the like. By simply not making it a crisis, it wouldn’t be a crisis, but the deep rooted Racism in the “middle” of many EU countries pushes them to imagine a crisis and help the Fascists. They also know that this helps the Fascists but they keep doing it, because less Racism and more human rights is seen as worse than a Fascist takeover.
Meanwhile countries like Poland, Germany, France, Italy and others are running into a demographic crisis. They urgently need younger people. By reinforcing the hatred towards migrants and refugees, Russia also helps maintain the EU to get weaker demographically. A problem Russia is facing at an unprecedented level themselves, now that they send their young men to die in Ukraine by the hundreds of thousands.
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The government that uses these humans as pawns in their power game will not care for them.
You cannot win a power game by racing to the bottom with the opponent. The sanctions will hit the devasted people living in a brutal dictatorship and the only way to directly hit the perpetrators is by establishing rules on the movement of capital and that will be prevented by a multitude of moneyed interests.
“Just send them back” is the naive approach.
To be fair though, “Just let them in” isn’t very promising either, if you’re not keen on having far-right governments…
Thats how the sanctions are supposed to work. You hit people, people’s live conditions deteriorate rapidly and they riot.
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Foreigners are people who already live in a country. These people aren’t.
And yes, letting them in will increase the voter base for the far-rights. Why are you acting so surprised?
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You call me racist for me having done what specifically? You’re being awfully xenophobic for someone who expects people to be welcoming to him.
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Bless you heart my man, I hope you’ll find happiness one day and stop filling your void by trolling insignificant people on the internet
What do they do?
They’re throwing sharp object over the fence, they possess weapons (knives, even molotovs, according to authorities) and we even had a incident where an immigrant managed to cross the fence and killed a 21yo soldier. I remember seeing a video with a group of people trying to storm the wall and collapse it.
Just yerderday I was talking to my friend who was stationed by the border and told me a guy tried to stab him with a knife when he was patrolling the border.
I can provide you with sources, but I’m on the phone and it’d be much easier for you to search for it in - it’s really easy to find articles about this whole situation.
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Oh wow, now that was personal. What is wrong with you, did you forget to take your meds today?
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I assume. But that’s only a fraction of the total amount of migrants and refugees…
-The OP. Other refugees and immigrants should be irrelevant as to the veracity of this statement.